Photos of American soldiers raping Iraqi women

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  1. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush tempered lighthearted remarks to a gathering of journalists Saturday with a declaration that the nation is in a ``period of testing and sacrifice'' spearheaded by a ``new generation of Americans as brave and decent as any before it.''

    ``As I speak, men and women in uniform are taking great risks and so are many journalists are being faithful to their own sense of duty,'' the president told the 90th annual White House Correspondents' Association dinner.



    Referring to upcoming events honoring the World War II generation, he said those warriors can be certain ``that when they are gone we will still have their kind wearing the uniform of the United States of America.''

    He said the death last month of former professional football player Pat Tillman ``brought home the sorrow that comes with every loss and reminds us of the character of the men and women who serve on our behalf.''

    The president said Tillman ``was modest because he knew there were many like him making their own sacrifices.''

    ``They fill the ranks of the armed forces,'' he continued. ``Everyday somewhere they do brave and good things without notice. Their courage is usually seen only by their comrades, by those who long to be free and by the enemy. They are willing to give up their lives and when one is lost a whole world of hopes and possibilities is lost with them. This evening we think of the families who grieve and the families that wait on a loved one's safe return.''

    Rest of story at http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/st.../20040501/2345618338.htm&sc=1151&floc=NW_5-L3

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    The chief of the U.S. Army Reserve condemned the abusive treatment of Iraqi war prisoners Saturday and said he has ordered a study of whether reservists are sufficiently trained in ethical conduct and how to treat prisoners.

    Do you think this would be the response if they had been doctored? Do you think the offenders would have been suspended if these had been doctored? Would Bush have apologized if these had been doctored?

    USE your brain that God gave you.
     
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  3. Rappaccini Redoubtable Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry, otheadp, but you didn't follow up on 15ofthe19's act very well.

    Get off the stage.



    §outh§tar,

    Wait... did you by chance even glance at the photos, or is that against your creed?

    If Bush is apologizing for the treatment of anyone, he's apologizing for the treatment of male Iraqi detainees.


    These photos are of a the "rape" of two "Iraqi" females.

    They were e-mailed to Albasrah. They have not been recognized by any organization but an Islamic site or two.


    Furthermore, the photos in question are so obviously pornographic in origin that I'm starting to think you must be trolling for attention...


    Get the picture?


     
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  5. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    Those are not American soldiers.

    That article = shit.
     
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  7. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    SoulthStar:
    "Do you think this would be the response if they had been doctored? Do you think the offenders would have been suspended if these had been doctored? Would Bush have apologized if these had been doctored?"

    Bush was apologizing for the treatment of Iraqi POWs, not for the rape of Iraqi civilians. The soldiers in the "rape pictures" aren't even identified. Nobody has aknowledged these pictures as accurate representations of events in Iraq.

    "USE your brain that God gave you."

    Amusing that you should appeal both God and empiricism.
     
  8. otheadp Banned Banned

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    sorry man.
    but i had to get myself into the mode of PM (or a leftist)... and that requires cutting the IQ output by at least a half... and hence the really stupid response
     
  9. Preacher_X Registered Senior Member

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    does anyone live in the UK?. well did anyone see the "Secret Policemen" Tuesday 21 October 2003 by the BBC (UK), which sparked outrage in the UK. a reporter went undercover to a police training camp in England to investagte racism in the Police. what he filmed sparked outrage in the country, showing many officers being blatanly racist, telling their view of blacks and asians and how the make them pay the "black tax" by unfairly picking on them.

    even worse, the poliice officers described the brutal racist killing of Steven Lawrence as "what the fu*king ni*ga deserved" and how they'd gladly do it.

    even more horrific, they put on masks like the Klu Klux Klan and started stabbing the air saying how they would of wanted to kill Lawrence. they then plotted how they'd knock on the door of the only Asian policmen in the camp, with the masks on and how they'd beat him and stab him.

    each policemen gave examples of how in the past theyd beaten asians and blacks and as policemen who they'd dealt with people of other colours.

    i have just said this article just to show that just because they serve their country, it doesn't mean they can't do such barabaric things as seen in Iraq.
     
  10. Preacher_X Registered Senior Member

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    do you know what middle eastern women look like? no you dont. okay SOME of those photos may be fake but those women are definately arabs. Caucasians look like a lot of Arabic women. the skin colour is right and so is the hair. Arabic women usually have balck or borwn hair. the golden hair that women had looks like arabic henna dye on the hair, like arab women often do.

    and all of the phots were handed in by US soldiers.
     
  11. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    If you guys can't spot a crack-whore cum-dumpster from West Hollywood when you see one you would be well advised not to weigh in about the situation in Iraq.

    Ahhh porn.

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  12. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Retard:
    "do you know what middle eastern women look like? no you dont."

    Actually, there are oodles of 'em where I live. Granted, you can't really see them because they hide under bedsheets, but they ain't Caucasian looking.

    " Caucasians look like a lot of Arabic women."

    Not really, there are simularities but not really.

    " the skin colour is right and so is the hair. Arabic women usually have balck or borwn hair. the golden hair that women had looks like arabic henna dye on the hair, like arab women often do."

    And these women are blonde and one has dyed or red hair.
    And better plucked eyebrows than I have. They even bloody LOOK like porn stars.
     
  13. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    hahahahahahaha
     
  14. GuessWho A Californian Registered Senior Member

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    Leftists,

    What happened to the idea of innocent before proven guilty?

    1. The desert uniform is "NOT" green.
    2. There was not even any badges, name tags...on these uniform.
    3. Green T-shirts were supposed to be worn with these uniforms but one guy wears a "white T-shirt.
    4. These uniforms even look different than the real ones.
    5. One guy even button his shirt all the way up to his neck. This is not how this uniform is worn.
    6. One guy wears a "blue" hat that looks like a baseball hat. This cannot be part of a uniform.
    7. Pants are supposed to be tugged inside the boots and not hanging out.
    8. One guy has the uniform sleeve way too short to be acceptable.
    9. One woman looks hispanic and the other looks asian with white skin. None of them look middle eastern at all.

    Only one the those listed items should have been good enough to prove that these are just pornography. If any of you are too blind to even realize it, you have just become one of my favorite clowns.

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  15. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Well, now we know how Rappaccini gets some.

    Go back to thinking your impure thoughts about little girls in the middle of the day, Rapeachini.
     
  16. Undecided Banned Banned

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    Yes it’s uncanny how Rapeachini knows how this is porn, he even seen some of these before. Awfully lude, and I detect some sexual dysfunction, I’d bet he love to be in Iraq in those “frat parties” they are having with those Iraqi men, and women. MEOW!
     
  17. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    @ Xev

    Just curious, how does one LOOK like a porn star?

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  18. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Oh fucking please, cocksucker - *I* can tell it's porn, and for obvious reasons it's not something I consume.
    What a low thing to insinuate about someone.

    tessie:
    If I were a man (don't worry, I'm not implying that you are one either) who once taunted another member about being sexually abused as a child, I would not make that sort of comment.

    SouthStar:

    Having burgandy-dyed hair, small, well groomed eyebrows, and being fully shaved in 'that area' makes one look rather like the people one sees in porn, no?
     
  19. Undecided Banned Banned

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    *I* can tell it's porn,

    That's not what I stated though, the difference is that he seen these porno pics before. That's simply disturbing; I mean getting off on pictures of rape is not exactly the best of indications now is it?

    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=35592

    After that Xev, without question, questions are raised. Perverted... surely.

    What a low thing to insinuate about someone.


    Read its comments not mine.
     
  20. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Undecided:
    "That's not what I stated though, the difference is that he seen this porno pics before. That's simply disturbing; I mean getting off on pictures of rape is not exactly the best of indications now is it?"

    How now, naive soul? Porn is ubiquitous on the internet, one need not search to find something like this - and certainly, seeing does not necessarily equate to enjoying.

    An old women's studies teacher once illustrated this by having her students search for any term + women on google. Almost any word, combined with the term "women", brings up something of a sexual nature.

    Further, what he does, does not, may or may not find arousing is none of your fucking business. What is he going to do, jump out of your computer monitor and rape you?
     
  21. Undecided Banned Banned

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    How now, naive soul? Porn is ubiquitous on the internet, one need not search to find something like this - and certainly, seeing does not necessarily equate to enjoying.

    Porn is rampant on the net, but that was rape was it not? You don't just get pop-up ads showing it. No he must have looked for pornography which was obviously rape in nature. Also why would he be looking at it prior to this recent event if he didn't enjoy it? Throws Psychological hedonism out of the window.

    Almost any word, combined with the term "women", brings up something of a sexual nature.


    I very highly doubt that it was in that context. Remember he said he had seen that very same porn before. He must have searched for it, intent, motive, all we are missing is the actus reus… hmmm.

    Further, what he does, does not, may or may not find arousing is none of your fucking business. What is he going to do, jump out of your computer monitor and rape you?

    I am sorry but obviously that man has issues and you concur by even addressing the problem. Is it my business? Of course, because those dysfunctions have an affect on society at large. Rape is not something that we can simply let happen, if we can prevent it we should, shouldn’t we? Who knows, it starts out as watching porn and transgresses into something more. Rapistcini over there proved to me and others that he has serious issues.
     
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  22. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe you could set up a business whereby you conduct psychoanalysis remotely via message boards. You could read what people post and from their words extrapolate a diagnosis of their particular "issues". Then you could run down to the pharmacy and pick up the required meds, run by the bookstore and pick up the required self-help book, and VOILA!, you've got everything they need to clear up their particular issue. You wait until they send you the Paypal addy and BOOM! You just made $99.95 plus expenses. I bet you could diagnose fifteen to twenty patients per day.

    Just think, you could be the Earl Scheib of net psychoanalysts!

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  23. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Rappaccini and Undecided:
    No flames. I don't care who initiated it, Rappa. And Undecided, just because you deleted your own post doesn't mean that me and Rappa didn't see it. Maybe I should restore all the posts here and then close the thread so everyone can see how stupard your both acting?
     
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