Perception of Class in America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bowser, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Witness the new racism. No further concern for justice is required now, caring about blacks only makes them weaker. Meanwhile rich people need so much encouraging we borrow from communist China in order to give them... about 20 trillion. Do you really swallow this horseshit, or do you only expect others to?
     
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  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The assumption would be that the black people who refuse to vote Republican in such high percentages have good reasons for their consistent assessments.
    The assumption would be that the Republican politicians who have been pandering to white racial bigotry since Nixon's winning campaigns know what they are doing.

    And the observation would be that this:
    has had some obvious influence.

    The pandering to white bigotry, and the stoking of it for that matter, has been almost entirely Republican since 1968.

    So - to illustrate the broad influence of race - has the use of this racial bigotry to create a delusion of "liberals" based in racial politics, liberals presented as being educated beyond sense and wealthy beyond capability, not like other wealthy but in a different class, further confusing the traditional rich/poor boundaries.

    You mentioned that the "traditional" class distinctions didn't seem to have the same boundaries in the US. Do you agree that you have been presented with an explanation, at least a partial one?
     
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  5. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    There's no harm in respecting the individual. But if I keep whispering in your ear that every white person hates you, you might come to believe it true. Also, if I keep feeding you the idea that you're a victim, that just might color your perception. It's just as harmful as calling them a "nigger." Yes, racism in America exists, but it has many avenues of expression.
     
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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And if a billionaire funded agitprop campaign to convince white people that "liberals" and "Democrats" were responsible for rousing black people via such perfidious tactics operates unchecked and unopposed for forty years,

    repeating over and over that that was what was responsible for black people's hostile complaints and unruly assemblies and demands for redress of grievances,

    (the "outside agitators" meme, famous from the voting rights marches etc of the early 1960s, elaborated and refined by the world's best marketing pros)

    is it any surprise that a delusion like that might take hold, and affect people's perceptions of class distinctions in the US?
     
  8. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    The delusion seems to have been lifted.
     
  9. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    ? Joke?
    It's still being posted here, and repeated all over the internet and TV and radio, and used to help elect Republicans to office all over the country. Republicans are stoking and pandering to white racial bigotry and its attendant leveraged delusions every hour of every day of every campaign season right now.
    Trump got 63 million votes that way.
     
  11. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    A claim leveled against each other? Who to believe? I'm willing to assume there is no innocents on either side.
     
  12. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Republican voter suppression of minorities is well documented.
     
  13. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    I would disagree. My appraisal is that America isn't horribly racist. An eight-year-term president might bolster my assumption. Further more, his presidency serves as an example to all individuals, that there's no need to be hindered by the past, no matter how many times you are reminded.
     
  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And all the black people who say it is pretty bad, and provide examples and evidence and so forth - they are victims of Democrats and liberals whispering in their ears? They don't know what they are talking about?
    And the election of Trump would destroy it completely. If you were paying attention.
    And that blocks your ability to perceive the reality of disproportionate guilt on the Republican account - such as the long lines at voting sites in Democratic precincts with Republican election oversight, with no corresponding obstacles in the inverse situation.
    You can't even see the linear chain from Limbaugh to Trump, or the fascism that has taken over the Republican Party.

    That's the thing about delusions - they cripple perception.
     
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  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Pretty silly assumption. Good thing no one makes that assumption.
    That would be awesome. Let's get to the point where we give him just as much respect as his white counterpart.
     
  16. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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  17. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Bourgeoisie, petit-bourgeoisie, and deluded, deceived, "Horatio Alger" proletariat aspiring to petit-bourgeois dreams.

    In other words, the people with power, the people who want power, and the people who are too stupid to recognize that they will never be in power.
     

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