Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by birch, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. birch Valued Senior Member

    i dislike the pretense of artificial and forced families as construed as legitimate. that's also a breeding ground for deception and lies.

    no stepparent is really going to care about a child that is not biologically theirs as much as their own biological child. there is no evolutionary imperative to do so.

    so this fake idea and pretense that stepparents are normal is abnormal. some may be decent people but i would say it's a risky situation most of the time because it is unnatural and puts a vulnerable child at great risk of harm, especially by a human because they are so diabolical in their schemes and unlike animals that may just kill the offspring of another male and get it over with, a human will use another child for the most heinous and perverted purposes as well as using them as some type of experiment with no ethics at all because it's a bonus to be able to exercise power over another life completely. and then it just produces damaged individuals for the next generation.

    i was very offended, repulsed and it was perversion of truth how he claimed to be my father when he was anything but a real father and he actually isn't my real father either to boot. a stranger who would have no interest or be neutral would have been a godsend in comparison.

    it was so obscene how in public, especially in church, there was this scene painted as if everything was legit and this was a normal family but it was furthest from the truth. how he seemed to get off on the one hand of claiming to be my father and his fetishizing of people as owned objects then treating me something else entirely behind four walls.

    that fuker wasn't actually related to me in any way real way, shape or form. society is fake how it just embraces pretenses and labels as legitimate and real.
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  3. TheFrogger Valued Senior Member

    Does anyone else think Santa (St. Nicholas) could have been a paedophile? All those gifts for children!
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  5. TheFrogger Valued Senior Member

    Birch, how did it make you feel?
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  7. timojin Valued Senior Member


    An il mind thinks everyone is il.
  8. birch Valued Senior Member


    she is so cute. you can tell she watched her mother with her routine. a real woman and mother nurtures and protects her daughter and definitely not jealous of her beauty but should feel blessed to have a beautiful daughter. the interaction between them is so tender.

    there are 'human' women that are jealous of their own daughter or even compete with them which is assbackward and malignant. that doesn't even help your genetic line if you are undermining your own offspring. it is utter stupidity. there is so much more fuked up anomalies that occur with human genetics and especially with the mind.

    i remember a friend telling me about these three girls she knew who were sisters and how their mother was so jealous of them to the point all three of them had to move out very early to get away from her. ridiculous.

    part of the problem i think that occurs with these scenarios besides just situations where a parent is not maternal or paternal is a case of too smart for their own good scenario. since genetics is complicated and humans are more able to distinguish differences between people, one's offspring could potentially have characteristics that are opposite of your core values.

    this creates not just slight personality or differences in taste/interest which are normally taken in stride and does not produce much conflicts but greater differences in intelligence as well as core values/nature can result in an offspring being rejected or abused.

    i also saw on the news this case of a woman who could not stand one of her daughters as in she even said that she was repulsed by this girl. this girl was normal and she just couldn't even stand her presence.

    she felt it wasn't "her" daughter and genetically in some way actually may not be. what i mean is she may have inherited traits primarily from another ancestor versus her mother which didn't gel with her. i noticed the huge difference in their personalities which really stood out. the shame was she seemed like such a nice child and very attractive. you would think she wouldn't reject such a child but you could tell her mother was very different from her. she might have even been jealous of her. when asked why she felt that way, she couldn't give a logical explanation but made a face as if she was nauseated by her. this was a news piece in north carolina and she had like five or six other kids which she accepted but didn't accept this one.

    almost everytime a biological parent rejects a biological child is because it's similar to being a surrogate parent as in there is a very big difference in their natures. a child can feel the same way toward a parent too if they are too different from them, not superficially but more of who they are. they can feel like strangers to eachother.

    how these situations are handled though would differ based on the nature of the parent. a better parent may not identify with that child but would still do the right thing even if they are not close and there are parents that would abuse. there are even parents that do not want as in love their child but want to keep them to use as well. humans are capable of more diverse forms of abuse which in turn creates more damaged people in society.

    in other words, because humans are more complicated, the negative side of that is more things can go wrong.
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  9. birch Valued Senior Member


    she is so precious. she is teaching her mother.

    if a stranger asks do you want to get a fridge? lol.
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  10. birch Valued Senior Member


    life deserves to go extinct to end it all. it truly does. this universe is a terrible and sadistic place.
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  11. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

    I wish there was not so much unnecessary suffering in the world.
  12. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

    I'm sorry you are a witness to so much suffering. All I can offer is the suggestion's not you. You're much better than that. If that makes any sense.
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    By that reasoning, the universe itself,should go extinct. I is true, that the universe is a hostile place but that same quality exist on earth as well.

    Your examples are only about humans, but what about all other organisms. This is were natral seection comes in. All other extant organisms have suvived the test of natural selection. Is there a reason why we are not subject to he same universal laws .

    The terrible offenses committed by humans are alsompresent in the rest of organic lifewill eventually result in our extinction, or the realization that living in harmony within our ecosystem will lead to more responsible action, or nature will select the societies which can live in a symbiotic relationship, with respect for human life and the realization that unlmited growth will invoke natural selection.

    The methods nature can and will use are nearly infinte, but will eventually stabilize our growth of the human species, sometimes by the most unusual or unexpected ways.

    As Hellstrom says if we manage to extinguish human life, the insect will just take over and give rise to increased evolution of the insect world oner the few million yers. It makes no difference to nature who or what survives. It has given rise to life and it will continue to do so, unless the earth becomes like mars or venus, completely uninhabitable. But humankind will have expired long before that.
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  14. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

    I'm sorry you had to experience the horrors of abuse but your statement is truly selfish. If you felt if was evil of those men who abused you for their selfish desires, it's evil of you to wish the universe to end for your selfish desire. What about the rest of the universe? Do you seriously believe all life here on earth and any other life that might exist elsewhere to end because of YOUR wish to end YOUR sufferings? Why Do you wish to pass their hatred on the rest of the universe?
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  15. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

    Many (most?) victims of pedophiles, rape, & other sexual assaults should find a competent therapist to help them cope with their feelings.

    From your Posts, I suspect that you need some help in dealing with your experiences.
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

    I can think of half a dozen cases of people I know personally where that isn't true.
    There is no evolutionary imperative to help your neighbor, or diet, or save money, or go to school. But a lot of people do those things, because we regularly use higher brain functions to override evolutionary imperatives.
  17. birch Valued Senior Member

    and that's why this part of the statement you overlooked:

  18. birch Valued Senior Member

    though that is the typical reflexive view, actually that's not the most selfish position, even technically. have you considered the price for life? life lives at the expense of other life and even the oppression of other life. given that scenario, it is truly selfish as well to keep a system going just because some do not suffer or as much. actually, that is the very reason it continues.

    my position on the issue is even less selfish because non-existence is actually neutral. that is like saying if the universe did not exist, then that is evil. no, it's not.

    this is an abject existential conclusion. you are assuming that if my life was circumstantially changed now that my opinion would be different. that's not why i have that opinion, it's because of what i do realize. i find the whole system of 'nature' at root to be unethical and it will never change here because that is the design of the laws of nature.

    my opinion is unorthodox to most but i don't think a universe with these sets of laws which is a system of predation should exist anywhere or ever happen but unfortunately it does. if it happened here, it probably has happened before and will again. that is if the multitverse theory is true.
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  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

    I didn't overlook it. I said that your statement "no stepparent is really going to care about a child that is not biologically theirs as much as their own biological child" is false, from experience. If you agree, great - we are on the same page.

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