On the Inevitable Imperfection of Moderators

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by exchemist, Jun 9, 2016.

  1. Farsight

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    Not really. I haven't promoted it in any way.

    I wouldn't want to poach people. I have my reputation to think about.

    I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean.
     
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  3. Farsight

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    Because he contradicts Einstein, and dismisses my robust references.

    That's the forum I run. I'm not banned there.

    I was banned there for correcting a "moderator". I was banned from International Skeptics for winning an argument.

    And the fact that rpenner doesn't dare to show in public what I get warnings for.
     
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  5. Farsight

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    Einstein said what he said. You contradict Einstein, and then dismiss Einstein with some specious "antique" epithet.

    Yes, you do, and then you have the gall to threaten and warn and suspend me for referring to Einstein, and then you accuse me of peddling pseudoscience.

    No, you dismiss Einstein.

    Which you are promoting. I am correcting you, and you abuse your moderator status to claim I'm promoting pseudoscience, when I'm the one referring to "Einstein and the evidence".

    All trumped-up charges.

    You issue warnings to posters who give robust peer-reviewed references to back up what they say. You don't issue warnings to abusive trolls.

    Phooey. You abuse it. I have nothing to hide. I challenge you to make all warnings to me public. Let's have open justice, not the secret thought-police.
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    There are indeed ethics problems in many of the threads you participate in. Perhaps, after some thought, you can identify the one common factor in all your threads.
     
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  8. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't want to be...

    But thanks.

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  10. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    I always enjoy pointing to the way that Farsight cherry-picks quotations. For the comment above, Farsight used the beginning of the sentence, but omits the link and the accompanying commentary about the actual use of Einstein's specific scientific claims. Farsight rarely, if ever, uses Einstein's specific claims unless they are from the exploratory picture between SR and GR, specific claims that Einstein explicitly repudiated later.
     
  11. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    In like manner, moderators who choose to moderate members in a thread in which they are at loggerheads are displaying the intellect of ground armadillo bone, the integrity of a wanton sociopath and the professionalism of a raspberry blancmange. It astounds me that such unethical behaviour is accepted here.
     
  12. rpenner Fully Wired Valued Senior Member

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    It's not what I daren't do. It's a principle of governance that less surprises lead to less work explaining surprises and since PM is an abbreviation for "personal (or private) message" I thought the tin should contain what is on the label. The author of the forum software agrees with me on this point. The rules (including G2 and H14) agree with me.
    Your complaint is generic to anyone policing the main science forums according to the policy which I did not draft. If your complaint is about my actions, you are violating rule G2. If you complaining about my selection as a volunteer moderator or the policy, then it's the forum administrators you'll be wanting to talk to.
    Thus demonstrations that you know Einstein's theories well enough to compare them with physical evidence would be relevant.
    That's a challenge established by forum software. There's no "allow everyone to view this personal conversation" flag.
    For your posts in May 2016, the following received warnings:
    As per your clearly expressed wishes, anyone PMing me will be invited to view the five resulting conversations. Happy now?
    Not secret, but respectful of privacy for both you and others.
     
  13. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Rpenner, please let us know how many members take you up on that offer.

    I don't wish to, because I know how you both write and reason. No contest: Reason wins over "pop-science cargo-cult trash" every time.

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  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The thing with Farsight is that he believes quoting the great man, makes his own claims and Interpretations [Farsight's] as indisputable!
    Einstein made errors, and admitted to them.
    Farsight and others here, are unable to admit to any errors.
    That leaves a chasm between them as wide as the Grand Canyon.
    Plus of course what Einstein said and believed was a 100 years or so ago.
    Scientists/cosmologists have learnt heaps since then, while keeping the basis of SR and GR are continually being further validated to higher degrees of precision with increasing accurate technology.
    Farsight clings to every word as a prop.

    As a lay person who has read plenty, when I see these pretentious individuals coming forth on this forum, [which does have lax guide lines] I always ask how many other science forums have they been banned from.
    That and of course, asking them that if they are so sure of what they believe to be factual, why the hell are they here: Why are they so backward in coming forward and testing their ideas via the accepted scientific method and peer review?
    We all know the answer to that.
     
  15. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. I come here to learn. If I can teach someone in the specific skills I have, all the better.

    I try not to presume or troll, except when someone's troll post gigs me...
     
  16. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Good that you warn people when they write incorrect stuff on science forum.

    Why don't you do that for most prolific poster Mr Paddoboy. His posts are mostly incorrect, whenever he is not copy pasting.

    Farsight accusations that you allow adhoms etc by posters like Paddoboy has some merit. I second that.
     
  17. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    From you. How valuable is that, I wonder?
     
  18. The God Valued Senior Member

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    You are in mourning, so I will let it pass..
     
  19. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Bullshit. Bring it.

    But thanks for noticing. Really.
     
  20. Bells Staff Member

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    Krash661 was permanently banned a week ago for menacing and threatening behaviour.

    After the incident occurred, a report was filed, staff convened and a long discussion was had about how to proceed. The decision was made to permanently ban him for said behaviour.
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yet as I continually tell you, they are actually generally correct as they align with the mainstream view, while near all your own posts, reflecting your fairy tale cosmology picture end up appropriately in the fringes, generally pseudoscience.
    Stop pretending that anyone is really taking any notice of you and face reality.
    Farsight of course also has been banned elsewhere on more strict forums, and that alone speaks volumes for his continued nonsensical claims that he is correct.
     
  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    You mean, no more "pathetic shenanigans"?

    (Shakes head)

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  23. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    I'm beginning to think rpenner is too much of a gentleman for this site. The time he spends explaining his warnings( see post #69 with links to every post), to 'someone' who a mod has in the past called a fraud, seems like a great waste of time.
     

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