Oil Doesn't Come From Dead Dinosaurs

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  1. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    http://www.green-energy-news.com/arch/nrgs2008/20080064.html

    Unfortunate indeed. For some retarded people...

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  3. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    It's only hard for people who are addicted to ideas, actually.
     
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  5. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Why is it hard to understand that dead sea organism sink?
    Why is it hard to understand that on the bottom they get covered with mud, sand etc.? (Even whole ships do in a few hundred years. -Ask any sea treasure hunter. I have seen a recovered viking ship in Oslo. - It is well preserved as was deeply buried and thus preserved from decay and oxygen.)
    But keep your ideas -don't let facts distrube you.

    BTW parts of the Earth's upper layers are going up as well as down. When some rocks that were deep (and thus compressed by high pressure) come up they fracture as the internal stress is released. (Usually in layers and then called "de foiliation," I think) the pieces do not move much one from another so meneralized water usually deposits crystals, often white, in these cracks. I have one that must have exploded as the cracks rung all thru it in many different directions.

    Other part of near Earth surface are also and obviously moving down. - Getting deep enough to convert organic material into oil. If gets deeper the oil breaks down into maninly methane (natural gas) and if getting deeper still and even that breaks down. -
    The hydrogen leaks away (oil and natural gas may too earlier if not trapped) and the carbon accumulates. - Most commercial coal has been move back up (typically with the mountains now covering it) but some is still too deep to mine economically, I think.
     
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  7. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Because as soon as detritus hits the bottom of the sea floor the urchins annihilate it. How does biological material travel through impermeable rock?
     
  8. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    Lost it already, have we?
     
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  10. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    There are no (live) sea urchins in the deep (oxygen free) ~4 degree C sea floor water. Not much life lives permanently* down there - except near some deep sea thermal vents, some strange anaerobic life forms have evolved and can permanently* live near them. - Usually on the energy of free sulpher**, I think, as they are miles deep in total darkness, but this biology is way out of my field - just memory of what I have read.
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    *There may be some brief aerobic visitors? (Even whales can stay down an hour or so I think; perhaps some small aerobic creatures can stay in that very cold water for a day? Certainly not a spine walking urchin. It could get only a few meters deep into oxygen free water, before dying - perhaps to become oil later. :shrug:

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    **Converting it to H2S, I think, certainly not to SO2, as no free oxygen down there.

    PS don't you ever tire of posting contra-factual nonsense?
     
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  11. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Oil, you'll just have to save up for a copy of Spore to get an idea how things evolved and where your beloved crude came from.
     
  12. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    I never said otherwise. There are no sea urchins in the mantle either.

    The bottom feeders eat biological detritus...

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  13. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    Ever hear of a world-wide flood?
    Six billion fat bloated human bodies, many were giants at that.
    As the waters went down they collected into massive floating piles along with all the animals...

    Just like "Soylent Green"
    It wasn't dinosaurs that made the massive oil fields.
    Black Gold...Texas Tea........ is people.
     
  14. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Well, TheVisitor, that makes about as much sense as OilisMastery's nonsense.
     
  15. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    At least we have equal representation here...

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  16. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    :roflmao:
    besides all the rest, but where did you get 6 billion?
     
  17. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Oh? What did you mean in post 4 by:

    Originally Posted by OilIsMastery in reply to Billy T post 7:
    "Because as soon as detritus hits the bottom of the sea floor the urchins annihilate it. ... "

    Your posting contra-factual nonsense and can not even remember your own posts!
     
  18. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Billy T, do you know what a sea urchin is?

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    How about a starfish? Or a crab? Do you know what a bottom feeder is?
     
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    Were there sea urchins back then ?
    And if there were is it plausible they could have eaten all the dead organisms that sank down to ocean floor ?
    At what depths do sea urchins live ?
     
  20. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Are these things, like, "alive"??? Oh my gosh...
     
  21. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Back when? 24,000 years ago?

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    The earliest known echinoids are found in the rock of the upper part of the Ordovician period, 450 million years ago.
     
  22. Enmos Staff Member

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    So how did this abiotic oil form then ? Are there any clues in the rocks ?
     
  23. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Oil is formed several different ways. The inventor of the periodic table of chemical elements, Mendeleyev, predicted iron carbide with water. The ingredients used by the National Academy of Sciences were iron, marble, and water: http://www.pnas.org/content/99/17/10976.full
     

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