Off-topic personal nonsense split from Simple geometric proof GR's GW's are impossible

Discussion in 'The Cesspool' started by paddoboy, Jul 7, 2016.

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  1. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    So you refuse to take the hint. Instead more fool commentary. And you therefore would accuse Feynman of the same? Or choose to ignore that #1 uses Feynman's - yes - shock horror - bead argument as an entirely appropriate starting point. And contrast. As for the maths, of course when it comes time for a suitably prettied-up publication-ready article, there will be the appropriate equations some can't think without. Those with a competent feel for the purported character of GR's GW's simply require no maths to appreciate my geometric argument. Which assumes the reader has such a basic grasp.
    And so ironic that you, a complete maths illiterate, should be emphasizing that which you have no hope of understanding or using.
    PLEASE DO! PLEASE!
     
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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I reread the links and your entire post in an effort to understand your proposition.
    And your are somewhat correct I dont understand what you are trying to establish no doubt it is me but I have lost interest and as I said I will leave you alone here.
    I guess I will just go with the results of ligo as oppossed to your thought experiment.
    And I was being silly with the beads I do appologise.
    You are trying to be serious I am sure in time you will be recognised for your efforts.
    Good luck with your ideas. Goodbye.
    Alex
     
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  5. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    There need be no conflict between aLIGO detections and my claim GR's GW's are impossible. Recall that which was referenced to at end of #1 - an alternative theory. Maybe not THE correct theory but having a flying chance owing to the predicted vector waves having no logical absurdities precluding them. OK, for those who think the media claims of aLIGO confirming GR in particular, have a good look here:
    http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...y-theory-why-does-this-get-rid-of-dark-energy
    Scroll down and start there with 'answer 3' and further down. Fact is the current aLIGO detections cannot offer sufficient data to distinguish between GR and G4v predictions. Plus further work needs to be done on chirp predictions for G4v.
    Thank you. In time maybe there can be a rapport of sorts.
    Again, thanks for those sentiments.
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The final conclusion was reached with the two separate incidents of merging binary pairs of BH's and subsequent gravitational waves, as per GR.

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    Wow! Pinning people to the wall now? you big bad brute you!

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    In essence the only thing that is pinned to the wall, is the OP and its unsupported claim, and the poster with it.

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  8. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    Yazata is owed an apology - or haven't you noticed? Keep up the vacuous BS though - but do remember everything you crap here is a permanent record. Able to be recalled as future reference.
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yazata most certainly has my apology...I'm having computer problems at this time and had two windows open . I hope it hasn't caused him any embarrassment. Thank you for bringing that faux pas to my attention.
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    My statement thus is fact, whether you like it or not.
    The final conclusion was reached with the two separate incidents of merging binary pairs of BH's and subsequent gravitational waves, as per GR.
     
  11. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    Whether by deliberate choice or out of profound ignorance, that oft repeated line ignores what I covered several times, beginning with #1, and of late in - with more details added, #51. But don't let mere facts and logic influence your utterly predictable, repetitious GR/PC fanboy rants. No siree!
     
  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You have nothing as has been pointed out to you by others.
    In fact the best part of this thread has been the "biff" between yourself, Farsight and the god.

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  13. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    A very few here have claimed to show that, but none have come close. It's not possible. If you are so confident - point out precisely where I 'failed' in #1. Mere innuendo counts for nothing. A tight, specifically targeted, logic-based rebuff would. You up to that paddoboy? He he he - I jest of course. Yes BS artist - I'm calling your bluff. Put up or shut up.
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    As I have told you again and again and again, this isn't about me and what I can do. This is about a fanatical anti GR poster with past threads moved to the fringes, and sees fit to peddle his fairy tales on a science forum.
    Let me make it clearer.
    You aint going to invalidate any part of GR, and you aint going to do it on a science forum. If you have anything substantial and/or concrete, go through the proper professional procedures and peer review, or are you again following the troll methodology and claiming conspiracy?
    Put up or shut up...with all due respect of course!

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  15. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    The expected response. I blame admin for allowing such useless crap to inundate this forum.
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Similar devotee of conspiracy theories like MR and river....first its mainstream science, holding Einstein as a god and not prepared to accept anything contrary,

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    now its the forum's admins...... excuses, excuses, excuses.
    Let me repeat.......
    As I have told you again and again and again, this isn't about me and what I can do. This is about a fanatical anti GR poster with past threads moved to the fringes, and sees fit to peddle his fairy tales on a science forum.
    Let me make it clearer.
    You aint going to invalidate any part of GR, and you aint going to do it on a science forum. If you have anything substantial and/or concrete, go through the proper professional procedures and peer review.
    Until then my friend, you are pissing into the wind.
     
  17. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    Wrong even there. Just one - which you continually dredge up as the #1 troll here. And almost certainly behind the scenes you deliberately lobbied for out of pure malice - and unfortunately succeeded. Despite the 'banishment' to Alternative Theories making no sense as at no time was an alternate theory being mentioned or so much as suggested. Something I specifically stated well in advance of admin's acquiescence to your nasty-minded conniving. Anticipating what you were slyly suggesting in earlier posts there. I further made the OP point the argument was strictly confined within what GR predicted. But faceless admin, hiding behind the curtain, pulled the appropriate levers regardless. In keeping with the second-rate nature of this forum.
    Or do you deny being the chief instigator?
     
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  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Is your self esteem so low you have to lash out rather than stay calm
    Its temper tantrums like yours, and the god and eddy that cause folk who could enhance discussion to keep well away.
    And so you attract folk like me and Paddoboy who think you deserve to have your nonsence expossed.
    I am not referring to your science either but as I have said before I am suspicious of chest beaters.
    You showed me a decent side one I could respect but your arogance and anger has to go.
    Learn to act like an adult please.
    Stop bagging this site.
    Stop your arrogant behaviour.
    Are you another version of the god?
    Are you some person with multiple characters to carry you agenda.
    Are you a frustrated writer using the net to develop characters.
    Why are you so ready to lose your temper.
    There now you can bite or you can take my point and do more to manage your anger.
    I am genuinely interested in this stuff and even in what you say but just when I think you may have something interesting to say you lose it.
    Pity.
    Alex
     
  19. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    We sort of made peace earlier, but now another rant. Blaming me for being peeved with an utterly skewed posting. Which, if you bother to check that other thread, now appears was just a mistake. Was there swearing and cursing or threats on my part that so got you upset so easily again? Your buddy paddoboy likes foul language, but somehow that never upsets you. Hmm... Consider the possibility your piece in #69 is hugely ironic, coming from someone with no competence to judge on anything in the OP or subsequent posts by me. YOU CALM DOWN - OK.
     
  20. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes it sounds like I am ranting I agree.
    I will keep it short in an effort to restore the peace.
    One question then. Dont you think you have the goods to rise above any mud slinging and present your case or replies without being angered by folk you feel are stiring you.
    If you are right is there need to be angry, blame others and the site.
    Alex
     
  21. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    It's obviously difficult from your perspective to understand my yes anger and frustration at the continual torrent of mindless and disingenuous responses. Not a single posting actually zeroing in on what should be an obvious dilemma for GR re GW's. Just a desert. Or stormy sea. Anything but positive and helpful. So I learn afresh not to post anything the least bit controversial ie. non-mainstream on SF.
     
  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I suppose one gets to a point where you say enough is enough. The god frustrated me and I suspect you have been doing this for a while so yes I can understand but as I said if you present ascalm you will get folk to engage.
    I used to rant against main stream but I worked out your scientist type is often quiet spooken and it is hard to get them to talk and harder to get anything out of them.
    You dont frighten me but you may be surprised to find you probably frighten the sort of person you would like to engage with.
    What branch of science are you involved with.
    Alex
     
  23. Farsight Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience. Sadly there are forums that peddle popscience trash, and give free rein to abusive trolls to protect it from critical comment. But do look into what I've said about Einstein's relativity and cargo-cult relativity, and think about whether you're picking the right target.
     
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