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  1. Headspin Registered Senior Member

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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not certain but I think methanol is used to reduce the hydrophobicity of aspartame and render it soluble. About 10% of aspartame in diet soda is methanol. So 2 liters would give you about 100 mgs of methanol at current doses. Unfortunately I don't know enough about methanol toxicity to tell you about safe limits (since it's not a food item) but I assume that's way below toxic levels (amounts are approx and based on memory)
     
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    Exposure limits are given as 250 ppm(parts per million) or 260 mgs.

    Also it seems that a 12 ounce can of aspartame sweetened soda contains 200 mgs of aspartame which would amount to 20 mgs of methanol after digestion.

    An additional peculiarity of methanol is that 30% of it is retained in the body and is not broken down to formaldehyde -> formic acid -> water and carbon dioxide. But this is info from alcoholics, where ethanol is preferentially metabolised. Don't know if anyone has looked at it in pregnant women.
     
  8. John99 Banned Banned

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    Sugar is a food additive as well. I read many of the web sites that were regurgitated here. It is mostly the same pages copied over and over with same info.

    The problem is that people are always looking for answers to things that have been happening from when first humans walked the planet.

    These things were just not diagnosed.
     
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    the E-33 and E-34 studies on lab rats show a correlation between brain tumors and apartame, increasing the risk by 25 times.

    studies also showed brain tumors risk increased cumulatively with dosage.
    other study using 59,000 rats showed the risk increased 47 times.

    even using Searle's (manufacturer of aspartame) inflated normal incidence of tumor figure, the risk increase was shown to increase by 25 times.

    I also recall reading that rats were less susceptible to effects of aspartame than humans, so any effects of studies are likely to be amplified in humans.
     
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    is this based on anything, or just speculation?
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    59000 rats? At $25 a pop, that's some study
     
  12. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    You can find anything on the internet.

    http://www.ghchealth.com/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all.html

    Why is this legal?
     
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    just so you know, i am well aware of Aspartame and these studies. tbh, i dont use it.

    Speculating about what? That most people a few decades ago, let alone centuries ago, where not autopsied or that these tests were not even available and many diseases were unknown?

    NO
     
  14. Headspin Registered Senior Member

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    you can find a lot in books and librarys too.
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    yeah but i notice you are a googler supreme.
     
  16. Headspin Registered Senior Member

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    just rechecked my facts (from a book in my personal library - nudge to John99)

    Neuroscientist Dr. John Olney used 59,000 ratsm, from 7 different studies, to show a total of 0.08% normal incidence of brain tumors. so these rats were probably from other studies (not asaprtame studies) and the data used as control data to compare with the aspartame studies....showing 47 times increased risk.
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    A meta analysis? I'm not a fan. But I see your point.
     
  18. John99 Banned Banned

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    bingo!
     
  19. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    You know I could swear I remember seeing a warning on fake sugar packets YEARS ago which said something along the lines of it heightening cancer risk in lab rats. I wish I would have saved the packet. That is the main reason I never touched the stuff.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    That's saccharine.
     
  21. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    lol really? How many cancer causing agents are there in fake sugar?
     
  22. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    we got that link from Phlog already, thanks
     

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