Noah's ark

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by spuriousmonkey, Mar 9, 2006.

  1. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Woody don't mind James, he would rather believe in "fish women" then the flood.
     
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  3. Woody Musical Creationist Registered Senior Member

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    Did a creationist come up with Piltdown man?

    Skinwalker and his prejudices -- two peas in a pod.
     
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  5. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    You sound just like the UFO nutters that go on about government conspiracies to suppress knowledge of space aliens. Do you wear a tin-foil hat, too, Woody?

    Where's the evidence that there is a man-made object on Mt. Ararat? Why would anything have been expected to survive, structurally, in all these thousands of years?
     
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  7. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    There's no prejudice, Woody. Simply objectivity. Unlike you, my opinions are subject to revision should evidence be produced to change them. I, like most who accept science instead of reject it, form conclusions based on evidence. Religious nutters and the like work the other way: they form evidence based on conclusions.

    Your honesty is what is in question more than your beliefs.

    I ask again: where's the evidence that there is a man-made structure on Mt Ararat?
     
  8. SnakeLord snakeystew.com Valued Senior Member

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    Well, if I were to be honest, I would have to say that the object is... well, an unknown object - until such time where what that object actually is could be verified. You talk about agendas, but what is it when a man claims something is a particular thing before being able to justify that claim?

    Satellite images are vastly unreliable.. For decades people thought the face on mars was actually an alien-made face. Shows you the worthlessness of unjustifiable claims.
     
  9. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    the bible was written by a man who was teling a story,


    why dont we all go and start debating about weather or not all the story books of old are not real,


    ofcourse its not real its a storybook, a philosophy book of metaphores, you dont see all the chinese population believing in all of the myths atleast they take it as philosophy and metaphore.


    watch out the dragon is comming earthquake alert. no the dragon that flys through the buildings and over the mountains is the wind,






    peace.
     
  10. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    but snake, all of the scientists do the same, thats bieng a hypocrite if i have to be honest, scientists believe "unconfirmed truths" (thanks QQ i will use that alot) alot of the time,

    peace.
     
  11. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    No, it was written by many men and many of the stories are mythological, i.e., with no one author.
     
  12. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    In other words, a book of fairy tales.
     
  13. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    sorry your correct,


    60 different scripts were in the bible right? and ok not a single story but still, many stories,

    a mythological philosophy or metaphore is a story to me, maybe because i enjoy reading them,


    peace.
     
  14. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    yeah but for adults, i havent seen many little kids understand the bible when reading it,


    peace.
     
  15. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Mostly, but not entirely. There are historical and semi-hostorical events depicted too.
     
  16. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Funny you should say so. At least 90% of adults don't understand it too.
    It's a mythology of another age, another place and entirely another people with world view not compatible with current knowledge.
    To even begin to understand the bible you have to be a little bit of a historian and anthropologist first.
     
  17. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    Usually in a fantastic way, though, as to the historical.
     
  18. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    You have to look on the little things: like distribution of food, methods of farming, etc., things that nobody found the need to exaggerate or censor. But, of course, bible is a lot better source to study cultural history than factual history.
     
  19. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    I agree with that. I think there are some good lessons in the bible, from a cultural standpoint.
     
  20. Woody Musical Creationist Registered Senior Member

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    yeah I figured you'd say something like that. Sounds like Skinny in true form.

    Check out my next thread. Be ready to watch some long videos -- I hope it doesn't put you to sleep like a bedtime story.

    next thread on the ark
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It forms what are known as river deltas. In many places, it builds up on the ocean floor. Often, due to continental drift, it gets pushed above sea level to become land again.
     
  22. Mythbuster Mushroomed Registered Senior Member

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    With all the methane produced by the tons of manure, how did Noah and his family tend to the animals on the lower decks and during the night, when natural light wouldn't be available? Any type of lamp or torch used for lighting would've blown the entire ark into bits because of the explosive amounts of the highly flammable methane gas.
     
  23. Ibanez Somebody Set Us Up The Bomb Registered Senior Member

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    The bible gives the measurements for the ark doesn't it? If we calculated the aprroximate volume of two of every animal on earth, compared to the volume of the ark, I'm pretty damn sure that there's no way there was enough room for every animal to live on that thing. Also, at the time the bible was written, noone had any idea the Americas existed. How did all the animals get there? I could go on, but i think it's already been proven several times over that the story's a load of bull.

    *edit* ...But then, just about every phrase in the bible's been proven a load of bull several times over, but that doesn't stop the millions of people who live by it.
     

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