No evidence of second Earth

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  1. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    I'd like one with no humans and just able to sustain human life

    Coupled with easy access would make a great faith testing lab

    Or a prison where no guards needed

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  3. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    Seems that a great deal of the Earths surface is inhospitable for humans, seems God did a pretty crappy job of it.
     
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  5. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    On the other hand, humans have a long history of rushing in where angels fear to tread.
     
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  7. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    I thought that was "fools"... Lo mismo, que?
     
  8. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Son en su mayoría los mismos.

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  9. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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  10. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    So would I. I wouldn't bet that there is a planet out there that is better for life that has evolved on Earth (anything is possible) and I wouldn't bet that we will be frequenting other solar systems due to the distances involved (again, anything is possible).
     
  11. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    There might be types of complex slash intelligent life which don't require terrestrial conditions to engender and maintain them. Even if such are so dependent, and the Earth is an uncommon convergence of multiple necessary characteristics, the latter need not be due to a deity dictating it be so at a level prior in rank to space and time. The items below are just a sample -- the wishes of concepts reified as humanoid gods are not required by them.

    Rare Earth hypothesis
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis

    New model predicts that we're probably the only advanced civilization in the observable universe
    https://phys.org/news/2018-06-advanced-civilization-universe.html

    Why plate tectonics may be essential for life
    https://www.quantamagazine.org/plate-tectonics-may-be-essential-for-life-20180607/

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  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    More archipelagos, lower percentage of land area in continental masses.
     
  13. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Perpetually tranquil worlds would probably be bastions of unchallenged simplicity and mindless routine. May need a history disrupted by great environmental stresses and apocalyptic extinction events to deliver "interesting" life. But too much of that in the active inner regions of galaxies would be an even more severe impediment. Takes a balance between the two.

    Yah, at best the equivalent of "black monoliths" on an uplift commission or von Neumann explorers would be doing that in their incredibly slow, quasi-hibernating migrations -- not us. If mutation or self-engineering is possible for nanotech, then "space wildlife" might eventually splinter off from the original machines, yielding nomadic critters without a formal agenda or eons-long mission.

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  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Ah! I see where you're going with that!
     
  15. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    only the fool says no God
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Only the fool says "God".
     
  17. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    The smart people don't get involved

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  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    You could say only the fool states the obvious.
    Can I ...may I ask how is it that even a fool knows there is no God.
    Alex
     
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  19. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Strong, but true enough not conclusive, evidence that physics accounts for stuff while those who credit god with the same stuff have no evidence

    While 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence'
    if reality is producing evidence and
    god not presenting any evidence sounds, to me, like they do not have any

    Thought bubble - are they still looking? have they any new detection methods,?

    I would say I have reasonable doubt god exist which translates to non existence of god

    Not perfect but good enough for me

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  20. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't bet that there are not planets out there that are better for life that has evolved on Earth and I wouldn't bet that we will not be frequenting other solar systems.

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  21. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    It does seem like there are many planets that have similar stats to Earth and it would not be unusual to find billions of Earth like planets ineach galaxy.

    Saint would you bet your life that there is only one Earth like planet ...sure you would you just want to jump the line for the after life.

    Will we ever get to go to any of them?

    Who knows.

    Man has come a long way...who would have thought we could know where the Sun went at night and yet we now know.

    It is not possible to travel the distances that are involved from what we know at the moment but before flight we would have never accepted that the jets that fly the world today would be possible.

    We say travel would take many human life times well from what I hear greatly extended life times are becoming close to possible.

    I can imagine a giant craft leaving Earth and taking many generations to get somewhere and although that seems unrealistic who knows what say 10 billion organised educated humans could do if they all pulled together...imagine if we could divert the physical and human resources wasted on religious pursuits...theres your giant space ship right there...and they could all get to go to heaven.. .either that or get them to check for life on the surface of the Sun.

    But Saint you will have to back down on your claim that God made only one Earth like planet...firstly as there is no creator God and secondly it seems there are indeed billions of similar planets...I bet you will not look however because you fear you will find your baseless claim is well baseless.


    The problem with so many believers would seem to be that they think a book of made up stories from the bronze age is a good place to find their science and as this book is clearly the only book they know about fail to read books written by folk who living thousands of years later actually know where the Sun goes at night...you would not go to the dentist to trim your toe nails so why would you go to church to get your science...scientists can give you science because they are scientists now that makes sense does it not? Of course it does...does it make sense...yes..I say brothers and sisters does it make sense...yes... does it make sense ..yes... praise the science...what do we praise...the science ..I want those up the back...praise the science...those up the front...praise the science... yea praise the science...

    Now those preachers give you religion because because they cant get a real job and have to resort to trickery and superstition to get money out of gullible folk.
    Who are the gullible...we are...those up the back..who are the gullible ...we are....

    Now I want you to take the money you waste on being told fairy tales at church and buy some real text books and learn more than a bronze age goat herder.

    Up the back...buy real text books...let the folk at home hear you...buy real text books...those up the front...what are text books☺

    Alex
     
  22. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Only saints think they're holy enough to call other people fools.
     
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  23. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    You don't need a religious mantle to call people fools. I do it all the time.

    No trumpets sound, no aura appears around me, flowers don't spring from the ground beneath my feet. It's an assessment based on my personal experience and knowledge, nothing more.

    Saint just may be a fool, if it's a living person. If it's Eliza 3.5.1, blame the programmer.
     

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