Mysterious "ORBS"

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  1. Time/02112 Senior Member Registered Senior Member

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    Mysterious "ORBS"
    Are they UFO's, or are they us? are these orbs from alien craft, or
    are they reversed engineered from downed or captured alien craft? are they some sort of "Spy" probes watching & recording us? what are these mysterious orbs?

    There appears to be two seperate types of these "Orbs" floating about our environment, one belonging to the
    "Etherical Realm" QSE,
    (Quantum States of Existance)...
    the "Physical Realm" QSE.

    Here is what I've managed to dig up over the www thus far...

    Mysterious "ORBS"
    Are they UFO's, or are they us? are these orbs from alien craft, or
    are they reversed engineered from downed or captured alien craft? are they some sort of "Spy" probes watching & recording us? what are these mysterious orbs?

    *A UFO, Photographic Phenomena, energy fields, orbs, UFO's ghosts, spirits.
    About a month or so ago I was in my yard here in southern Virginia taking pictures of aircraft making chem/contrails. I took several shots, and came in to download them into my computer. I have a Polaroid PDC640 camera, and had no problems...
    http://www.navarrone.com/phenomena/phenomena11.html

    *Earth Lights
    The Earth Light - Ghost Light - and Spooklight Resource An 'earth
    light' is the name given to a mysterious light of no apparent origin
    other than perhaps the earth. More frequently they are called 'spooklights' or 'ghost lights', as some people believe that
    these strange lights are actually ghosts... in addition, there are
    other similar related forms of ALP (Anomalous Luminous Phenomena), for example: Will-o'-the-wisps, ball lightning, & EQLs, all of which are explored further on this site.
    http://www.mysterylights.com

    *Orbwatch Index
    The ORBWATCH website comprises written and/or visual reports
    pertaining to Unidentified Submerging Objects, and, at times,
    Unidentified Emerging Objects.
    http://www.globalserve.net/~mallet
     
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  3. odin Registered Senior Member

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    Orange ball!

    Well I stood & watched an orange ball slowly travel along in the sky for about a half hour back years ago.
    One night my first wife came in from the garden & said there is something funny in the sky out there,so we went out to look.
    It just looked like a glowing Orange ball not solid but made of a dull sort of light.

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  5. Panzer Dragoon Registered Member

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    No one laugh if i say something supid. Im 16 and just now getting into physics and science in general.

    But I was reading from Mr. Kaku's book and when I read this it hit me about the orbs most of everyone has seen either on tv or in real life. heres the text:

    Now imagine that we are "three dimensional Flatlanders" being visited by a higher dimensional being. If we became lost, a higher dimensional being could scan our entire universe all at once, peering directly into the most tightly sealed hiding places. If we became sick, a higher dimensional being could reach into our insides and perform surgery without ever cutting our skin. If we were in a maximum-security, escape-proof jail, a higher dimensional being could simply "yank" us into a higher dimension and redeposit us back somewhere else. If higher dimensional beings stick their "fingers" into our universe, they would appear to us to be blobs of flesh which float above us and constantly merge and split apart. And lastly, if we are flung into hyperspace, we would see a collection of spheres, blobs, and polyhedra which suddenly appear, constantly change shape and color, and then mysteriously disappear.

    Could these actually be related? If you have seen the video of the orbs making a crop circle it kinda interrprets the 4th dimensional theory. Im still young and not really that knowledgeable in this area but im trying.
     
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  7. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    I would hypothesis that these "Orbs of Light/Electricity" are just something created from a matrix of doppler's that emminate from RF antenna's.

    (In other words a ball shaped Electromagnetic Field)

    This field is artificially made either by certain scientists that tend to be elusive or possibly caused naturally at certain points when something similar to RADAR overlaps.

    This will account for crop-circles, the movement of something that seems like a UFO with no relelvance to G, and a whole bunch of other paranormal phenomona.

    Not too big a mystery.
     
  8. Panzer Dragoon Registered Member

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    Oh....Guess that shoots my theory down.
     
  9. Moose Registered Member

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    war

    it certainly does, with nuclear tipped armour piercing shells that resemble pies........

    (thought that a £10-worth was needed)
    I know shit too. That#'s why i'm here, because it is positively filled with intelligent knowledgeable people (cough). No, really, this is a sorted bb
     
  10. SeekerOfTruth Unemployed, but Looking Registered Senior Member

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    Stryderunknown,

    Could you define "matrix of doppler's" for me?
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Crop circles

    I'd like to know what a "matrix of doppler's" is, too.

    Crop circles are already accounted for. They're made by a couple of guys with a plank of wood who go around stomping the vegetation. No mystery there.
     
  12. TIME02112 Registered Senior Member

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    Mysterious Orbs Form a "V"

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    Subject: Mysterious Orbs Form a "V"


    Odd but very true!
    I saw the exact objects over my back yard in CA. the same date last
    year! it was around 0400 (4AM) pacific "Time"

    Strange Object Over The Water In Oceanside, California-- Photo By:
    Gene DeVito http://www.artbell.com/ufos10.html
     
  13. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting colors. But I am reminded of a hoax within a hoax -- ala moon landing hoaxsters: um, where are the stars in that nighttime picture of orbs in the sky?

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  14. Big Hairy Jimbo Registered Member

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    V shaped ufo's. Sorry I'm not convinced. What about a flock of birds, flying just after sunset. Because of their height, light from the sun still hits them, although we cant see the sun, because of the curvature of the Earth. Remember bird formations are Vs!! If in the middle of the night, some other form of illumination could light them up. Why would UFO's try and hide on Earth, and yet light themselves up with coloured lights. Seems a bit contradictory to me. Anyway, as for glowing orbs, I can make glowing orbs in my microwave oven. Experiment yourself by placing various chemicals in your microwave. Even plant material can make plasma balls in your microwave. They are very bright, they hover around, sometimes with lightining bolts, and your microwave makes a very loud BUZZING sounds once the plasma ball ignites. Good party trick, once you have found something that works for you. Tip, use someone elses microwave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

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    Big Hairy Jimbo ...

    Tip, use someone elses microwave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Great advice, we need some more practical minded people around here!

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  16. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Take Seven Metalic Kites, made from an ultralight material (Like tin foil), Use a power cable for the line attached to them (make sure its armoured cable and have a tensile load test)

    Place upon each kite a box that emmits particular frequencies (similar to equipment used in stealth) Arrange your kites as a Super-Kite (Positioning them in a "V" formation)

    Fly your kites over a renound desert area at a particular height and turn the power on.

    From a distance the kites will seem like colours and lights in the sky, but in reality they emit radar dopplers that can:

    1: Confuse Missiles as to their target lock and their actually Controls

    2: Block out enemy satellite bombardments like RF (UV,IF) scans using the kites as a Large FARADAY CAGE.

    3: Confuse all civilians into thinking MARS is attacking.
     
  17. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    Re: Crop circles

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    hi,

    i have heard of hoaxes too,but if you see the pattern, the symmetry is not that of the original one James,also the Gravititional and electromagnetic field is very high in these places in case of a an original circel but in case of hoaxes...nope.

    also when hoaxers do this,i have seen demonstration of one,they leave footprints behind the crops on the part of the plants,whereas in the original stuff there's none...

    bye!
     
  18. Boris2 Valued Senior Member

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    Matrix of doppler

    Google returned only three pages for "Matrix of doppler"

    Here is one, PDF eight pages so not a long download.

    http://ece.clemson.edu/egbaxa/Radcon.pdf

    Seems to be associated with aircraft safety with regards to air turbulance and is a matrix made up of multiple LIDAR or RADAR returns to produce a picture of air masses.
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    zion,

    <i>i have heard of hoaxes too,but if you see the pattern, the symmetry is not that of the original one James...</i>

    People are inventive. They can do all kinds of different patterns.

    <i>...also the Gravititional and electromagnetic field is very high in these places in case of a an original circel but in case of hoaxes...nope.</i>

    Is that the case? Where is that documented, so I can check for myself?

    <i>also when hoaxers do this,i have seen demonstration of one,they leave footprints behind the crops on the part of the plants,whereas in the original stuff there's none...</i>

    Again, I'd like to see studies which show this difference. Do you have any references?
     
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  21. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    James R,
    check out this link for more details:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_871000/871607.stm

    also do a google search on the topic you will find loads of material there.

    also did you see Dr Collins live demonstration program at BBC?
    in that he carried a compass sort of thing and bought it near the crop circle,the compass went itsy bitsy...teeny weeny..

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    my theory is that due to sudden change in magnetic fields or there are certain portions of earth where field changes abruptly due to some internal reasons and the plants respond accordingly...geotropism etc...

    bye!
     
  22. SeekerOfTruth Unemployed, but Looking Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Matrix of doppler

    Boris2,

    I don't think this paper applies, Stryder please correct me if I am wrong, because the paper is referring to a 2-D matrix that is created out of an analysis of a single narrow beam LIDAR, which is a type of Laser Radar. What Stryder referred to was a "matrix of doppler's that emminate from RF antenna's" which implies, at least to me, some type of 2- or 3-D emission of RF energy from a single antenna. This emission would have some different dopplers based upon the spatial orientation of the viewer.

    At least that is the way I have interpreted Stryder's words, which may be totally incorrect

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    I don't think any antenna would transmit a 2D waveform. And to observe a doppler shift either the observer or antenna would have to be moving, wouldn't it?

    The three links were the only reference I could find, so I posted one and hoped that Stryder would clarify the issue for us.

    "I live in hope, even if I die in despair" ;-)
     

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