Originally posted by jlabrec
Heh, so the bitter debate on philosophy, or more correctly, my views on philosophy, have simply removed me from that section. Nice.
No, you remove yourself. You can play too, nobody said you can't. I was just making a stark observation.
Originally posted by jlabrec
Unarmed.... yes that perhaps best describes me. I haven't had any formal training in philosophy, nor would I want to.
Most of the people here haven't either. If you'd take the time to check, rather than then reeling from some skathing commentary, you'd likely determine this for yourself (as I did). I don't have any formal training in philosophy. I'm just really fucking smart. There are truly some brilliant people on this board, even those who aren't *looks suspiciously in the mirror* often envision themselves to be. Well, I'll not continue my backwardly reflected psychoanalysis, I'm sure it's boring everyone to tears.
Originally posted by jlabrec
I am not certain that a person requires such schooling in order to seek wisdom.
Absolutely not, but I will give you what I've noticed. If you don't get a formal education in some sort of critical thinking, you have to be incredibly intelligent to be even halfway good at it. Moreso, you have to provide the motiviation and discipline to find that wisdom yourself... with little to guide your overall path. Formal education provides all that last stuff there for you, which can help to shape a mind with potential... into a being of greater analytical merit. It's like chess sort of, but far more complicated. The best players know all the classic attacks... have studied all of them, tried to create their own. Know what I mean? I'm not trying to call you an idiot.. I'm trying to say that without an education it's impossible to know what it's like to have an education.. but you seem to be making judgements about that which you can only guess about.. and then hold them as truths. Not a good strategy in my opinion.
Originally posted by jlabrec
Well, I will leave you overeducated nitwits with this....
Hehe, Okay, you're coming off like an undereducated nitwit. You should try to have a little thicker skin if you expect to have a reasonable conversation with disembodied typists.
Originally posted by jlabrec
continue to spout the things you've learned in school, without actively engaging in life.
You're acting very defensive. A lot of undereducated intellectuals have a huge chip on their shoulder because they made shitty decisions about their education and now are stuck working a shit job in a factory. Are you like that? I'll bet you are. I only know because before I was educated I felt kind of the same way. Shut up and get educated. You're obviously intelligent, but possibly socially retarded in the sense that you are placing the blame on society for your shitty job.. rather than taking responsibility for yourself and not taking any of the lame excuses you tell yourself to avoid the bother of a formal education because... in the end.. you don't think you can do it. Stop being a fucking pussy and DO it. No excuses asshole. Do it. NOTE: I only speak to you like that because that's exactly the way I spoke to ME when I was trying to keep what is apparently happening to you.. from happening to ME.
Originally posted by jlabrec
What will you be left with in the end? A mind full of wisdom, and nothing useful to offer the world around you.
That's just nonsense. I and many of the others have MUCH to offer.. both HERE and IRL (in real life).
Originally posted by jlabrec
Stay safe in your little forum, I'll not trouble you any longer with my, apparent flame bait.
Remember the skin comment with the thickness and the whatnot? Yeah, try that... unless you just want to take your ball and go home. If you stick around you might find it's worth the mental excercise. Expose your brain such that we may pick it apart... we'll help you put it back together again if you want, or you can do it. The point is to learn and teach and teach and learn. Get with it.
Originally posted by jlabrec
I will give you a bit of something to think on. I took one philosophy course while in college. After an essay I had written, based on this topic, my instructor pulled me aside and said this: "some people are beat with the stupid stick, you were beat with the whole tree." Heh, naturally I laughed, but I think it was my reply that hurt his feelings the most, "yes well.... I never payed $100000 for a master's degree, so that I could earn $20000 per year."
He was probably shocked at your incorrect assessment of his situation and reeling from that which seemed to prove his point at the same time he was making it. If money is your object, get a degree that pays well. Engineering is good like that. I'm not rich but I've finally made it to the middle class. I like my house. I payed (owe) about 60,000 for a career that started me at 42,000. Considering that my earnings potential is 100,000 in 10 or so years, and really the skys's the limit... I think it was the best investment (monetarily, yes) that I've ever made. Oh, that and it keeps me off the shop floor except when I'm designing/investigating/training... whatever. I like that even more than the money. Maybe your prof. was trying reverse psychology to motivate you. You don't seem stupid.. you even seem somewhat coherent .. but anyone who has played the game for a while can see through your invalid assertions like your pawn pimping their queen out. Aint happenin.
Originally posted by jlabrec
Mindless Philosophy is a concept. I believe that people can continue to spout what they've learned and never really achieve their own wisdom. Ah well... what do I know.
Good question. Maybe more important.. what do you WANT to know?
Originally posted by jlabrec
I think this will be my last post in this forum, perhaps I will go to other such forums elsewhere.
Again, take your ball and go home if you must, but you'll just look like a panzy. You probably don't care and really neither will anyone else. Stay and you might learn something and I swear if you stick around long enough... someone will probably learn something from you. Eh, I'm just trying to give you the little bit of wisdom that I think I have.. maybe it's me that should be asking "what do I know?"
Originally posted by jlabrec
Perhaps I'll stop by to read more mindless philosophy.
Ah, the double hidden meaning meaning. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet. That's some style dawg yiyah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you DO come back, please bring more of that... I like it even though it's kind of a dig at me too. What the hell, it was a nice wrap up. You go boy!