Mask-Burning: The Ethics of Freedom

Kaiser poll from last month: (sample size 1900)

COVID-19 vaccine opinions.
Republicans will:
Definitely get it: 41%
Wait and see: 18%
Only get it if required: 10%
Definitely not get it: 28%

Democrats will:
Definitely get it: 75%
Wait and see: 19%
Only get it if required: 4%
Definitely not get it: 2%

Again, twice as many republicans with negative views of COVID-19 vaccines. Feel free to ignore/discredit/mock this as well if it disagrees with your biases.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-february-2021/

 

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Now you're moving the goalposts from vaccines in general to Covid vaccine specifically. Again, your own bias may tell you they are the same, even though the results differ between your two sources.

 

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Curious shift to the passive voice in that highlighted portion there--did you mean to say that the publisher opted to no longer publish certain obscure titles, perhaps?

 

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Gallop is only interested in profit
no profit = no gallop

the data must provide profit

the product must be purchased by someone to make a profit

or did basic American capitalism business principals just get thrown out the window with the baby & the bath water and
if so who & what is running Gallop (magic bean council of imaginary money & money trees association of creative fiscalness)

or does Gallop print & give away its own currency ?

 

Well the investigation is being started .

 

If Gallop is proved to be corrupt . It matters .

 

they dont have to be corrupt like you might expect money changing hands
their core mechanism is creating profit by selling a product
if no one wants to buy their product the company will not exist any more

what i have mentally noted over the years is Gallop survey business leaning concepts that drive profit for business

while public perception of a public survey company is to serve the people
it is not
that is a false reality driven by right wing capitalists
such companys are expected to deliver a product to service business profit interests
that is the "habitat" they must exist in

i have issue with many survey companies
i find their question filtering to be very conservatively bent which in turn alters the outcome of their data quality.
(i am speaking as an amateur[personal hobby] statistician and amateur sociologist)

if you cant clearly define your bias then your head is up your ass instead of in the game

absolutely
however ...
in my opinion as an amateur [hobbyist]psychological-anthropologist
it is a culture like toxic masculinity as a business culture & changing it is not a simple task like making a public statement.
it requires time & leadership & money
but the nature of the product is privatized toward private company services as a process to validate their own moral positions, which is a false economy.
if you pull all the corporate private company fees then the company collapses & the psychos start calling it communist, which is not helpful media to the average sheople who are wanted to feel comfortable engaging giving the survey company something for free.

https://news.yahoo.com/study-vaccinated-people-continuing-social-165439447.html

• what is the cultural imperative we see paying out here as an example

• presenter's thinks they are giving real info & their professional reputation is attached

• media company has ownership in intrinsic truth of data in news item

• public want something they not only understand but also wish to feel they can agree with

now we look at the actual data and how it can be defined

bad news with less than 50% compliant to basic government health advice

• what % of people actively avoid large crowds before the pandemic ? 65% ?

so what use is that data out of context with semi false associations toward what ?
sales ?(you see the propaganda angle her that is easily worked)

socialist distancing
masks are ok with guns
guns are good
Muslim masks are bad
masks for non Muslims gives power back to non Muslims
if i can wear a mask and feel like i am sticking it to big government then i am keeping my privacy as a false personal belief that services my religious beliefs

does a mask give freedom or license ?

does social distancing dictate my social life ?

 

Don't know . You tell me .

And so does Google . Get information for free . Without our permission . Survallience habits by users .

 

Ethics of freedom ; should include Stupidity .

 

note "stupidity" as a mechanism of public opinion is simply cultural belief/practice

the act must be performed to act out the stupidity
where as the discourse must be engaged to define the intellectual stupidity

interestingly
South America
USA Mexican border wall
covid out of control in south America
that border wall is looking sexier & sexier(ideally don't want that Ebola hazmat deal being run on the border as it will bankrupt the southern states so creating a solution before that becomes the reality in a few months time would be financially(money before people in the usa) [& preventing the preventable death of people] the smarter choice)...


looks like population control in effect in south america by hook or by crook
vaccination war appears to have been completely lost(or more precisely thrown under the buss to steal the babys lunch money)

question now is will USA pay for all visa immunizations to service their critical reliance on low wage Mexican workers to maintain their economy ?

sounds a bit Orwellian sci-fi
but ... what i would do is create a soft/hard quarantine zone inside Mexico where people get free USA paid for vaccinations to go with their visa.
then the vaccination station can service local Mexicans by vaccinating them at cost price to the Mexican govts expense as all visa approvals get free all vaccines.
all working visa approved get free all vaccinations required for travel paid for by the USA govt
possibly tie in booster vaccine at the end of their visa when they need to leave or apply for a new one so if they return to Mexico they are freshly vaccinated AND they are financially inspired to stay vaccinated for free.
note you don't want to pre pay for their departure vaccination because then they will never go and get it

 

Just know rather than think your right . And be able to question without fear .

 

Congratulations in finding a way to deny those results!

Here's another one for you to deny from 2016:

Belief in the statement "vaccines have been shown to cause autism"
Democrats: 18%
Republicans: 31%

Once again - two to one! It's almost as if there's a common thread here. . . .

https://today.yougov.com/topics/pol...f-conspiracies-largely-depends-political-iden

 

that false intentional alignment of supposed intellectual scientific liberty which is bent around denial of science to form a position when there is no brain to form any position
they would 1st need to educate themselves to a level where they could then start to learn about the subject
& then learn about the subject
and then come to an opinion
instead they are sold the cool-aid for vote buying & xenophobic mob control to jump into a wagon as a position of default intellectual bias.

sold as "liberalism" which is then sold as the only possible option to go with "conservative" which is then sold as the only option to go with "republican".

its such a sham

follow up question "tell us what autism is" ?(& who pays for it)
. . .

 

Sorry. I didn't realize you needed who decides to quit publishing a book spelled out for you.
I'm not sure I'd call his first book "obscure", and that definitely wasn't the reason given for doing so.

Read it again. I didn't deny anything. I actually gave you the opportunity to justify why one bears on the other.
If this one gives its methodology, I'm not finding it. But keep Googling stuff with no more scrutiny than affirming your bias. It's probably comforting.

 

I knew you'd find a way to deny it! Congratulations. You are very good at denial, a necessary skill for modern conservatives.

 

If you think offering you the chance to justify your conflation of two different things as being more than simply moving the goalposts or wanting to compare methodologies between conflicting sources a denial, I seriously doubt you're aware of your own bias or have the intellectual honesty to do much but lob firebombs. Alack.

 

Sure, but his, uh, "argument" is that mask mandates have not had a statistically significant impact. Of course, impact on what precisely he does not say. Though I'm curious about that part because, as it stands, it seems kinda like saying, "Making premeditated killing a crime has had a statistically insignificant impact." Again, on what precisely? Perhaps the number of premeditated killings? But if that were the case, what exactly would be the point?

 

No, but I'm not burning masks either.

For some reason only shows affect on hospitalization growth rates:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7006e2.htm
Addresses that arbitrarily narrow focus and methodological problems, including lack of control for other contributing factors:
https://www.aier.org/article/the-cdcs-mask-mandate-study-debunked/
Illustrates the relation between mask mandates and increases in the number of cases:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/29/these-12-graphs-show-mask-mandates-do-nothing-to-stop-covid/

 

Well, that shut some people up.