Let's make a new name for cellphones!!

Discussion in 'Linguistics' started by Syzygys, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    "Dummy" would be better.

    "You just can't live with out it,... I see you've got your Dummy with you!" (A comforter, I guess a phone is a comforter for some... well it is if they get through to you and start chin wagging your ear off with the latest quintessentially important crisis that has emerged in their life. Some people realise however "That is what Hold is for")
     
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  3. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    That's because they vastly overcharge for texts, relative to the cost of sending a text. Transmitting a single second of voice traffic requires sending more bits across the network than 10 texts, and must be done continuously, in real time. Yet sending a single text can cost more than 1 minute's worth of voice call time. Texts are essentially all profit, while margins on voice calls are razor thin.

    If use is measured in terms of hours spent by users (the relevant measure here), instead of profits made by carriers, then voice calls outstrip text by orders of magnitude.

    No, it wasn't, since the iPod Touch is neither a cellphone, nor a smartphone, nor any kind of phone: it doesn't use the phone network at all. It's a portable WiFi device, just like your laptop or netbook. And it doesn't do texting or voice calls, and so is not a replacement for a phone: people who own them (largely received as gifts BTW) tend to carry them AND a cellphone. For a few weeks, anyway, until they get tired of lugging around 2 devices and start leaving the iTouch at home.
     
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  5. baftan ******* Valued Senior Member

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    I live in Britain but I have never heard "British units" before. Your examples are "Imperial Units" or historically "English Units". Maybe non-British English speaking countries (such as US) are calling them as "British units"; I don't know.

    I also don't know how "name for cellphones" thread has evolved into such a specific international masturbation.
     
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  7. Xylene Valued Senior Member

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    mobies? Just an idea...

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    You're right, sorry. But we've been browbeaten by the Welsh, Scots and Northern Irishmen to stop calling them "English," so we overreacted by being reluctant to use the adjective for anything except the language and muffins. Now if only they would return the favor and stop referring to all Americans as "Yankees."

    We only use "Imperial" in specific cases when the English unit is not quite the same size as the American version, such as gallons and bushels. We standardized our measures in the 18th century, before the British did, so ours came out differently even though they're both derived from the same source.
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  9. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    The funny part is that I don't actually have a smarty, just a plain cellphone. So it looks like I won't be using the term anytime soon.

    And that was the whole point of this thread, to make a distinction between simple cellphones and advanced personal communicating devices. (oh no, I just made APCD)
     
  10. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    BS im not giving out any ideas that I could patent myself or gain ipr on >_> I have good ideas they are worth money lol.

    peace.
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    If you post them at least you have proof as to when YOU came up with the idea and can use it if you need to to get your idea money because you developed it first , here.
     
  12. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Nobody ever made money by naming a generic device...
     
  13. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    News:

    "Information is leaking out about an Android phone from Motorola which is rumored to be the first such phone for Verizon. Not much is known about this phone, which is dubbed Sholes. If Verizon does release this phone, it will likely be the first Android phone to work on the EVDO Rev. A 3G network."

    Now doesn't smarty sound better??

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  15. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Better than what? "Phone?"
     
  16. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    No, Android or Sholes, as mentioned in the news.
     
  17. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Those are both proper nouns, and so it is not appropriate to replace them with a catch-all term. To do so would brutalize the meaning of the quoted text:

    "Information is leaking out about a smarty phone from Motorola which is rumored to be the first such phone for Verizon. Not much is known about this phone, which is dubbed smarty. If Verizon does release this phone, it will likely be the first smarty phone to work on the EVDO Rev. A 3G network."

    This makes the first sentence false: Verizon and Motorola already have smartphones on the market. Likewise, the second sentence becomes false, since "smarty" is not the name of the new product. Finally, the third sentence also becomes false, since there are other smartphones on EVDO Rev. A.
     
  18. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Proper nouns can become comon nouns, see hoover...
     
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  19. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Syzygys is right, there are huge numbers of bran names which have become comon nouns.

    Victor (for lawn mover)
    Hills Hoist (for washing line, specifically the stand alone sort)
    Bandaid (for a small type of aheasive wound dressing)
    panadol (for paracitamol)
    Nufirin (for ibprofin)
    EpiPen (for a self injecting Adrenilin)
    Bowser (for the petrol pumps)
    PC (for computers)
     
  20. EntropyAlwaysWins TANSTAAFL. Registered Senior Member

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    PC isn't a brand, it stands for Personal Computer.
     
  21. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    which was the name IBM gave to there first computer compeating against the commodoor 64 (from memory)
     
  22. EntropyAlwaysWins TANSTAAFL. Registered Senior Member

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    Ok, I stand corrected.
    Although I think its an interesting case of the brand (PC not IBM) that gave the product its name no longer existing.
     
  23. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    the company whos brand was "Bowser" also no longer exists i think
     

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