It is the reverse. True Jihad is waging warfare and sowing terror to enforce subission to islam. This is supported by the quran teachings. Devout muslims wage war to bring about a global islamic state. False Jihad is put forward by compromising muslims who want to have an easy life without troubles, who live in already conqured lands, who just want to enjoy life. These must put forward a twisted interpretation of jihad to justify their disobediance to the call of muhammed to wage true jihad: Even in muhammed's day there where false muslims who did not want to fight and kill for islam: Qur’an 9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.” Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.” Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah’s enemy.” Qur’an 8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.” Qur’an 8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).” Qur’an 9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.” Qur’an 47:4 “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.” Some muslims deny the true nature of jihad only when they are talking to unbelievers. But some actually believe in twisted verson. All Praise The Ancient Of Days
Adstar, you should stick to discussing Christianity as obviously your knowledge of Islamic theology is minimal at best. I am not familiar with the website from which you received all these quotes, nor do I really care. Also, the translation you are using is manipulative, the meanings for the Arabic words are simply fabricated. It is my duty as a Muslim to defend the truth of Islam from the corruption and falsehood. If you say something which is not consistent with Islam, I will explain to you the correct meaning of which you don't understand. Jihad (from Arabic JaHaDa) means struggle. There are two struggles, one the greater struggle/struggle for the soul (Jihad al-akbar/Jihad an Nafs) is the inner struggle within the human body to be obedience to God, and fight against the shaytaan (devil)'s influence. Lesser struggle/struggle with the sword (Jihad al-asghar/Jihad bis Saif) is the physical struggle for truth and justice in this world, against the armies of Shaytaan and oppression, against occupation of one's people, against exploiters. This does consist of establishing the rule of Islam in the lands where Muslims are a majority, especially if they are occupied by a foreign power. Islam does not accept colonialism, it resists in all aspects. Furthermore, not only war, but various struggles in a Muslims life are Jihad (studies, women giving childbirth, facing oppression, caring for fellow humans, etc.). Jihad cannot be limited to war, it applies in all aspects of Muslims' lives. Using the words 'sowing terror' is just a cheap shot against the Islamic religion. Islam opposes injustice of all kinds. Jihad is supported, but not your erroneous interpretation of it. Muslims are asked to wage war to free their occupied brothers and sisters, to resist tyranny, resist exploitation, and establish justice in the land. Muslims are not required to wage war on Non-Muslim countries, this is just fear-mongering and propaganda by Islamophobes. You have no right to define what is true Jihad or false Jihad, neither does the poster 'JustLovely'. Only Muslims reserve the sole right to interprete their religion. Those who claim Jihad is a means to subjugate Non-Muslims (as Non-Muslims of this forum) or those who claim Jihad has nothing to do with war are both in error regarding the injunctions of the Quran. Yes, therefore the Quran reveals verses regarding that. You should have read my posts, I have already discussed this matter in detail. Furthermore, if you use the word 'fight', 'kill' is rather redundant. It is obviously a propaganda technique to further win the audience by the poster in question. The context of this verse was revealed when the Idolaters of Makkah, who had expelled the Prophet from Makkah and consequently signed a peace accord with him, had suddenly broke it by raiding a bedouin tribe allies the the Muslims of Madinah. This was a violation of the treaty, thus the Quran specifically addressed this case as a lesson to believers if they are faced with such a circumstance. Surah 9 -At-Taubah 1. A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:- 2. Go ye, then, for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him. [The Makkans were allowed four months to prepare for the war, to emigrate, to chose to join the Muslims, or simply stay where they were] 3. And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. 4. (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous. 5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. [Notice what was intentionally left out of the verse you provided, I have boldened the statement] 6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge. 7. How can there be a league, before Allah and His Messenger, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous. Notice here the context from which the verses were taken out, the same war as mentioned above, it is still the same chapter. Surah 9 (continued) 36. The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year)- so ordained by Him the day He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are sacred: that is the straight usage. So wrong not yourselves therein, and fight the Pagans all together as they fight you all together. But know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves. 37. Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to Unbelief: the Unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year, and forbidden another year, in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject Faith. [The Pagans broke the treaty and fought the Muslims in one of the Prohibited Months, the calender of Prophets Ibrahim and Ismail (peace be upon them)] 38. O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. 39. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things. [Meaning they will be replaced by a people who will support their Prophet and who will fight when God has ordered them against those who kill innocents] 40. If ye help not (your leader), (it is no matter): for Allah did indeed help him, when the Unbelievers drove him out: he had no more than one companion; they two were in the cave, and he said to his companion, "Have no fear, for Allah is with us": then Allah sent down His peace upon him, and strengthened him with forces which ye saw not, and humbled to the depths the word of the Unbelievers. But the word of Allah is exalted to the heights: for Allah is Exalted in might, Wise. Surah 9 (continued) 123. O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him. [Notice how this verse is defensive in nature. If the enemy surrounds you, you must repel them with strength, again this is specifically referring to the Quraish] Surah 8 Al-Anfal 38. Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). [Punishment to come = Hell] 39. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do. 40. If they refuse, be sure that Allah is your Protector - the best to protect and the best to help. [Fitnah means injustice, oppression, and mischief in Arabic. Therefore, this verse is properly understood in this context. If injustice exists and believers are persecuted for their religion, then war must be waged until peace is secured, either by them ceasing in injustice or their defeat] These verses specifically address the Quraish Pagans, and their broken covenant. Surah 8 Al-Anfal 55. For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe. 56. They are those with whom thou didst make a covenant, but they break their covenant every time, and they have not the fear (of Allah.. 57. If ye gain the mastery over them in war, disperse, with them, those who follow them, that they may remember. 58. If thou fearest treachery from any group, throw back (their covenant) to them, (so as to be) on equal terms: for Allah loveth not the treacherous. 59. Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). 60. Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike fear into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. 61. But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah. for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). [Conveniently expunged from your quotation of this verse] Surah 47 Muhammad 1. Those who reject Allah and hinder (men) from the Path of Allah,- their deeds will Allah render astray (from their mark). 2. But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- He will remove from them their ills and improve their condition. 3. This because those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the Truth from their Lord: Thus does Allah set forth for men their lessons by similitudes. 4. Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah.s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost. [Again referring to a war] Well as indicated by my post, you do not know what true Jihad is. Furthermore, True Muslims judge religion by what the Quran has revealed. There is nothing twisted about waging a just war, and Islam recognizes was as a reality. As long as there is evil in the world, there will be war. As long as oppressive superpowers attempt to forcibly occupy and exploit people and their lands, there will be resistance. Quran: http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/Surai.htm
All the world knows what true jihad is. All your twists have no effect. True muslims are growing in number all the time and their acts of true Jihad are there for all the world to see. I really don't need to quote the quran much at all. The proof of it's true message are being shown in many parts of the world this very day. I feel sorry for you DiamondHearts holding on to such a twist of a religion that is in rebellion against the Messiah Jesus. What a waste of a life. Even your own altered scriptures reveal islam: What does it matter if your corrupt translators replace the word unbeliever with pagan?? This calls on you to attack them and only relent when they "establish regular prayers" So does that mean you are to relent if a community of hundu pagans start regular prayers to vishnu?? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Nooo it means when they repent and start to establish regular prayers to Allah. Any other interpretation says that allah sees prayers to pagan gods as good and a cause for the ending of persecution. No matter how much effort they have put into twisting your supposed quran they have failed to cover up the original meaning. That is to fight unbelievers using all kinds of warfare (and terror is a strategy of war) until they convert and establish regular prayers to allah. The other alternative interpretation makes allah a supporter of prayers to pagan gods and that allah will be merciful to those who worship idols. Because the word pagan means a worshiper of false gods. All Praise The Ancient Of Days
As your response indicates, you have completely ignored my post and the fact that you intentionally selectively misquoted to disprove it. I have responded to you in a very systematic and straightforward manner, I expect the same from you. Enough is this duplicity. You neither understand global politics nor religion, you may want to study both subjects more carefully. Let's look where there are Muslim resistance groups, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Chechnya, Kashmir. What is the common denominator? They are occupied by foreign powers, they are subjected to oppression at the hands of these powers. "To teach a man not to defend himself is criminal." - Malcolm X Yet you feel the urge to misquote the Quran intentionally. You have been thoroughly revealed as dishonest in your quoting and fallous interpretation of the Quran. God teaches man that he should be honest in debate, no matter who he is debating. I have consistently been honest and straight-forward in my views. If you claim to follow God, then manipulation of verses [by selective misquoting, and taking out of context] from the Quran is a very low standard which you are holding. Furthermore, its easy to malign Islam as, unfortunately, it is the easy thing to do these days. There is a worldwide alliance of fundamentalist Christians, Zionists, Secularists, Atheists, Hindus, Idol-worshipers, Homosexuals, Pagans, and Heretics who wish to silence Islam and oppress Muslims. It takes men of courage to speak for truth and belief of God, and people would deny him his life and happiness for it. God took a covenant with the human being in Heaven. He asked the human whether he would bear the truth and worship God, and God alone, in all circumstances. The human being said 'Yes, My Lord.' Then God asked, if the entire world agreed with you or disagreed with you, would you still follow my path" The Human being said 'Yes, My Lord.' Therefore, it is of little relevance what you or anyone else thinks in this regard. I am 100% sure in my conviction to God, the one God, the Lord of Abraham. I have no need for pity in following truth, for the one who worships God, he will be oppressed in the land and his enemy will fight him and occupy his lands. So be it. God is enough support for me. If I was the only believer on this planet, in an ocean of disbelievers. I would still bear truth, regardless of the harm to my physical body. I have taken a covenant with God, that is more holy to me than anything else in existence. Come what may. We worship the One God, the same God worshiped by our father Adam, the Lord of Noah, the Master of Abraham. What the Christians have stated, that Prophet Jesus is God is an outright lie and blasphemy against God. The Lord who created Adam from neither father or mother, what need of He to be a father to one of his Adam's offspring. Prophet Jesus was nothing but a man, a blessed and righteous man, the Messiah, but a man nonetheless. This point shall be personally taken to account by God alone on the Day of Judgment. (peace be upon all the prophets) The Arabic word is 'Mushrikeen' (coming from the Arabic root Sh R K), Shirk is defined as the association of any partners in worship with God. In Islam, this is the biggest sin a man can make, and the only unforgivable sin. The translator is neither corrupt nor misguided. He has correctly translated this word. As I discussed in detail in my previous post, this is relating to a specific circumstance of war against the Pagans of Quraish in Makkah who had broken a treaty with the Muslims during the Holy Months. The order of God stated, let them prepare four months for the inevitable. If they want to leave, if they want to fight, or if they want to join the people of Madinah and their allied tribes. In the specific circumstance, yes. They had broken several coveenants with the believers and had even attempted assassinated the Prophet (peace be upon him). Therefore, this si the reward of those who spread injustice. You have again not mentioned the following verses claiming that if they establish peace, then the Muslims should establish peace also. You keep ignoring the evidence, even though it is infront of you. It is very intellectually dishonest. I don't even understand this question. Yes it does. Look above. I explained in the verses following this one. Unless they establish peace and have not broken their treaties. This is your mind playing tricks on you. You have nothing to stand on and have been thoroughly rebuked in my previous post, therefore now you have resorted to confusion. As stated above, Islam does not allow persecution of other people. There is nothing in the Quran to support that. Someone who purposefully misquotes the Quran to justify his views, even in the face of apparent evidence cannot be taken seriously. Your dishonest post has been completely torn apart, and now you resort back to your rhetoric. Leave the discussion of the Quran to who have a decent knowledge of it, not someone who copies and pasts text from a website without even checking to make sure they are correct to begin with. Since when have you become a scholar in interpreting the Quran? Perhaps you should consider writing your own commentary of the Quran. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
And this is what The Messiah Jesus teaches Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Not just to not defend oneself but to love those who attack you. You are like all the other false religions who teach a message that man thinks is right, satan is laughing at your all. Ohhh and Malcolm X a man who taught violent resistance who had a bloody end at the hands of a……Fellow muslim. How representative of the greater Islamic world community riven with internal bloody hate filled strife and murder. There are thousands of Malcolm Xers in Pakistan right now dishing out and receiving a similar fate at the hands of fellow muslims. Who cares for honestly given views that are wrong. I am honestly telling you that Jesus is the Only way to eternity with the God of Abraham and the accursed muhammed delivered a lie that has deceived many. he is not the only one. Jews rejected the mercy of God revealed by Jesus if they loved mercy as the torah told them too then they would have accepted Jesus. catholics accepted the lie of Constantine and embraced justifiable war. And so also the followers of muhammed because just like the rest they had rejected the love of the truth. Yes the fruit of islam is for all the world to see. And each day they hate islam more and more. There is a conspiracy yes and satan is running it and islam is one of his principal tools. Anyone who loves their lives more that God are susceptible to being used to go out and murder and oppress each other. All those who will not believe Jesus will be used by satan. But you follow a lie. You trust in a man muhammed, Why? You have taken a covenant with the message of muhammed and in taking that covenant you have believed a lie, and what you have rejected, The love of the truth that is the Messiah Jesus, That is your only chance for salvation. And the One sitting in Judgement on that day will be the Word of God who in the beginning was with God and was God. The Arabic word is 'Mushrikeen' (coming from the Arabic root Sh R K), Shirk is defined as the association of any partners in worship with God. In Islam, this is the biggest sin a man can make, and the only unforgivable sin. Who cares what the quran teaches you. Anyway we do not preach a partner to God, We preach that God and Jesus are one. Jesus the Word of God was with God AND WAS GOD. JESUS is God, the WORD made Flesh. But to those who have rejected the Love of the truth their minds are dimmed and they are given over to great deception. So it has happened as we see in the bloody hate filled world of today. I am not surprised although the implication is clear. Yeahhhh Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! SO IT MEANS THEY MUST CONVERT TO ISLAM TO BRING ABOUT AN END TO THE JIHAD BEING WAGED AGAINST THEM. Once again jihad means waging warfare using all strategy’s against unbelievers until the submit to and accept islam as their religion. I stand correct and your twisted scriptures even declare it so. Look above. I have clearly explained that they must convert and accept islam and pray to allah unless they do this then they will be attacked and killed to extinction: As the quran says: Qur’an 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.’” Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.” The confusion is in your mind, but you have been rattled to the core you hold on desperately to grand statements of faith but you are rattled All Praise be to the Ancient of Days. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! All Praise The Ancient Of Days
There is no use debating someone who is intellectually dishonest and relies only on rhetoric to prove a point. I have already answered all the questions you just posed in my previous posts. Refer back to them. If someone claims Islam is 'so and so', he should provide evidence from the Quran to support his claims. It is incumbent on those seeking truth, and not those merely spouting their own theories, to substantiate all claims from Islamic sources. Furthermore, who is the author of the manipulative translation you just posted, also provide the website where you copied this.
Actually, the problem here is that true Islam was lost 1400 years ago. That's plain to see. As I said before, it's really silly to suggest Allah needs a human to kill for Allah. That's just stupid. Allah would just kill the human Allah wanted dead - but Allah doesn't desire for death so it would never happen. Also, there is no Satan, that's only a metaphor for humanity. Diamondhearts will never embrace true Islam because it means giving up on too many of his/her false beliefs. Ideas like US versus THEM. Or lines on a map called "Pakistan". They think Indians, whom they are, are going to invade them! How silly. They are Indian and still worried about Indians. You know, Afghanistan and Pakistan used to be Buddhist. I wonder, now that they are under the spell of false-Islam, does Diamonhearts thinks it's bad? I mean, here we heard how awful it is that their culture is being changed, but, when it changed to false-violent-Islam you think THAT was great?!?!?! See, I think Afghan people were much better off as Buddhist than as Violent-Islam. And, if they peacefully turn to the Truth Faith, Ahmadiyya Islam and ask Mohammad for forgiveness and accept Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as the Messiah then they will be on the track to Peace again - as they were before this warped Islam filled with justification for Violence erupted. Everyone knows that Arabs lost their way soon after Mohammad died. They even used their false "Islam" to attack and kill the peace loving Persians. At that point, true Islam was long gone. Think about places like UAE, these were Persian Cities founded by great peaceful Persian people and now they are Arab Cities - still peaceful and great, yet, for Diamondhearts this is OK.... yet, it's not OK that the British/Americans come and attach his/her cities? That doens't make sense either it is OK or not OK. Bascially Dianmondhears is so brainwashed by the false-Islam that it's pointless. Anyone who thinks Allah need them to kill for Allah because Allah is not capable to do it, is just too far gone and filled with brainwashed violence and rage to worry about. I notice a lot of so-called Muslims on here are filled with violence and rage, which reminds me of people like the Arab boy who yelled and pushed my fiend and I. They will live their lives filled with suspicion, blame, violent thoughts and hate and one day die never knowing what this life was really meant to be about.
I see on the TV that Pakistani so-called Muslims (named the Amy) have MURDERED 200 Pakistani s-called Muslims (named the Taliban). You see, both people here, pray to Allah to help them murder the other ones. That's messed up and anyone can see this philosophy is wrong. No American is standing their forcing them to murder one another, it's their warped version of true Islam that make them think it's OK, so, they do it. Here's a Scientific FACT: If they put down their guns, asked Mohammad to forgive their sins and accepted Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as the Messiah then there would be ZERO murdering of one another but instead would be PEACE. That's really how easy it would be. Anyone can see that this would be a much better philosophy to live with - for everyone.
Unfortunately, seeking intellectual and honest discussion in this forum is like finding a single grain of sand in a desert. Note to all previous posts in which anyone wishes to attribute things to me. I wasn't alive in ancient Perisa, nor ancient India, nor ancient Afghanistan or Pakistan. I am a Muslim who follows Islam, and I am not responsible if one man who claims to be a Muslim commits one crime. That has nothing to do with me, no matter how much you would like it to. I also never stated that people should kill innocents, I am completely opposed to that. I believe, however, that is someone is attacked, he has the right to defend himself. Is this clear enough. Islam is defined as those who believe in one God (who has no partner, and whom is not comparable to man), follow the Quran and the Sunnah, and believe that the Prophet Muhammad is the last Prophet and he is merely a human with no supernatural powers of his own. God rewards Muslims, God forgives their sins, God punishes man. Rather simple.
There you ARE DOING IT AGAIN. The Taliban say the Amy are guilty and kill them and the Amy says the Taliban are guilty and kill them and round and round the block headed people go.... People shouldn't kill People - done. If Allah wanted someone dead then they'd be dead. It's as simple as that. It is physically IMPOSSIBLE to die if it is against the wishes of Allah. Your Islam is very simple minded. It doesn't matter if a person believes in one or one million Gods. Allah isn't really worried, you know, Allah actually knows enough to know why people believe in millions of Gods or none. Allah isn't all that bothered as there are much more important things in this life. The Sunnah ... please. The Koran was perfect for people 1500 but get this YOU couldn't read the original Koran even if you wanted to! You don't know the background of the stories you don't know the frame of mind people thought in, etc... Mohammad didn't have super human powers. I wonder, did Mohammad split the moon? You ever do that? Not that it matters if it happened or not, Mohammad's job on this Earth ended when he died where he took up a new job - forgiving you of your Sins in the name of Allah. Only an individual who was human can do this. The Koran says that one should seek out knowledge - maybe you should look into accepting Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as the Messiah and find out when knowledge you gain.
:crazy: Islam is really simple. You are just making it complicated for no reason. Furthermore, no Prophet has any powers, except by what God Himself gives them the ability to do with His permission. No one can forgive sins but God. With that, I'm done talking to you. May Allah guide us all to the true Islam, worship of One God. Ameen.
Orthodox Islam fits you perfectly DiamondHearts. I am surprised you don't go into becoming a Catholic Priest or something - you know: high on ritual and low on spiritual. Wouldn't want to think outside of the box, no no no, better to stick with your crappy version of things. And there you go. EXCEPT You said it. Except that which Allah gives, such as the ability to forgive humans who ask for it of their Sins. Try it in earnest and you'll see or don't and stay in the sad state you are in. As for the simplistic ideas you have. Yes, the idea there is a One Allah or a Last Prophet are so simplistic as to boarder on the inane. These will take a person about as far as you are at DiamondHearts - - a person who sees us versus them and thinks non-Innocent humans are ripe for murder, not only that, that Allah sanctions it. True Islam will eventually prevail. Each day Human's turn against your type of Islam and over the centuries your way of thinking will be left to the pages of time. look into accepting Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as the Messiah and find Peace OR waste the rest of your life in ignorance, which I hear is bliss, so you should at least fully a blissfully dull existence Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! This was a time when Muslims were open minded and closer to Allah. Now-a-days they are full of hate and so suc so that a book like this one (composed of non-orthodox "Indian" stories) would never be made. That's how FAR DOWN Islam has slid. WAY WAY down so far indeed that Allah needed to send the Messiah Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to try and fix things. Leave your orthodoxy behind, ask Mohammad to forgive you of your Sins DiamondHearts and embrace True Islam.
