Jesus' Lost Years

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  1. m0rl0ck Consume! Conform! Obey! Registered Senior Member

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    >>>The Bible supports itself.

    LOL you could also say that for any crackpot conspiracy

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    Having read buddhist and christian scriptures Im impressed with the way the sayings of jesus echo buddhist ideas. Jesus wouldnt have had to travel very far to get exposure to eastern thought either, the romans were great importers of religions and rome built good roads. So whether or not he actually traveled to the east or not he probably had exposure to eastern spiritual ideas.
    Of course you could also make the theosophist arguement that the Ultimate Reality is accessable from any starting point and terminates in the same endpoint no matter where you start.
     
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  3. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    truth is relative to the observer
     
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  5. evolove Registered Senior Member

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    Truth is not relative to the observer, is gravity relative to the observer? Is the Earth being round realitive to the observer?
    Somebody might be able to convince themselves that the Earth is flat, but that doesn't make it truth, it just means they have deluded themselves,

    Jan Ardena, where did that come from?
    Very Eastern, I doubt that it is though for obvious reasons, Gnostic Christian?
    I didn't mean to imply that Jesus didn't teach others, I was saying did he have some sort of Guru that helped him, other than John, did he get to his perfect state by himself, with in his own life, or was he born in full knowledge, a lot of people like to think the last, but I'm not sure, at this stage I would have to go for either of the first two
     
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  7. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    If you are in the middl of a black hole then it is.
    it is relative to your location.
    Earth is flat in 2 dimensional scale. it depends of the observer as I told.
     
  8. evolove Registered Senior Member

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    So is that statement
     
  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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  10. Find "Issa" in Arabic, then look for it in Aramaic or Hebrew. What you should find is that "Issa" is Arabic for Jesus. If He was really traveling the silk & spice trails of old, why didn't He just use the lingua franca of His Time & Homeland (Aramaic), as would be the custom of most travelers? And at that time (4BC to 30AD), Arabic had not been dispersed in that direction yet. Rome had a Caesar named Phillip of Arabic descent later, Philip the Arab (244-249 A.D.). By the way, if Jesus is God, then He probably spoke Arabic as fluently as He would English today, but why would He??? Just like, why would He need to go to India for knowledge?
    http://www.roman-emperors.org/philarab.htm

    False!!!???!!!The nerve of that woman!!!, I don't know where she got that name, it must of been in California, where you can change it to anything not fraudulent, which reminds me, you can stop calling me, "George W. Bush" now and start with "Wolfgang A. Mozart", 'WAM' for short.
     
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  11. evolove Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks for stating an obvious piont, I always fuckin miss them, damn it, but just to be sure, I think that Arabic would have been infulenced by Aramaic, if not a direct desendent, Could Issa have come from that? It is the common language that was spoken at that time, so would fit the criteria that you previously set out, Issa is also the native word for Christian in India, which fits in with their Saint Issa, i know you statement throughs doubt over the whole thing, but I want to get right to the bottom of this,
     
  12. Aramaic & Mar Thoma

    Found a few sites that you can look up for the Mar Thoma Church in India & the Aramaic language that was spoken in Palestine during Jesus's time.

    http://www.bmarthomac.freeservers.com/custom2.html

    http://www.peshitta.org/

    from the above site, the following was found for "issa" , under the Lexical Concordance button:

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    For "jesus" , the following:


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    Word: (w4yb
    Lexeme: (w4y
    Root: (w4y
    Word Number: 9566
    Meaning: Jesus
    Pronunciation: (Eastern) B'YeSHuOE
    (Western) B'YeSHuOE
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  13. evolove Registered Senior Member

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    Randolfo, ever greatful, I'd have got around to it eventualy, but thanks for sharing, and for the links
     
  14. late reply

    No problem, sorry for the late reply, just moved & comp not wired yet, so at the public library today to get emails & chat.
     
  15. Neutrino_Albatross Legion of Dynamic Discord Registered Senior Member

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    i downloaded a song called Jesus: The Missing Years by John Prine. Its pretty messed up.
     
  16. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    That's a weird fucking song.
     

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