It is time for us athiests to stand up for ourselves.

-ND- · Jan 11, 2010

codanblad said: ↑

i've made a decision.

so you already knew about djinn before anyone mentioned it. mad skills bro.
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what is djinn? DJing? or Jinns? Jinns=demons.

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fellowtraveler · Jan 11, 2010

lixluke said: ↑

Of course they don't. They only operate within the parameters of logic.
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REPLY: I am the original poster, fellowtraveler. You have many posts in this thread. What is it you have to say ? You are a what ? A Christian ? SAY whatever it is you wish to say and be done with it. You and your avatar, what do you have to say ? What , you are a bare naked Christian for Jesus. It was a bare naked Christian woman who showed her crutch for Jesus that got this thread started. Is there some new christian movement developing me and the rest of us are unaware of ? If so explain it to us. I guess you people like strutting around bare naked or something. That seems a lot more fun than the Old Time type. Maybe you are onto something . It has to be more entertaining than THAT OLD TIME RELIGION. Go for it. ...traveler

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lixluke · Jan 11, 2010

fellowtraveler said: ↑

REPLY: I am the original poster, fellowtraveler. You have many posts in this thread. What is it you have to say ? You are a what ? A Christian ? SAY whatever it is you wish to say and be done with it. You and your avatar, what do you have to say ? What , you are a bare naked Christian for Jesus. It was a bare naked Christian woman who showed her crutch for Jesus that got this thread started. Is there some new christian movement developing me and the rest of us are unaware of ? If so explain it to us. I guess you people like strutting around bare naked or something. That seems a lot more fun than the Old Time type. Maybe you are onto something . It has to be more entertaining than THAT OLD TIME RELIGION. Go for it. ...traveler
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Most of the responses on thie thread are completely off topic.

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Originally Posted by fellowtraveler
I have started to do so just lately, the last year or so. I was always to some degree been ashamed of myself for going along with those friends and relatives who took it for granted I had some belief in god to get along and such with them. I do not go around proclaiming my non-belief in utter non-sense, but, if it comes up I SOMETIMES ONLY tell them I do not believe in any god. It can be very difficult and at times I try and change the subject and such. I have no desire to alienate my relatives. And I do understand that it is sometimes the only thing keeping them going and some discretion is necessary.
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The topic of the thread is actually a totally different story. When in Rome, do as the Romans. Strategically, it is in your best intereest to pretend you are whatever belief of the people around you. Not only that, pretend you're really fanatical about it. They will lift you up, promote you, and give you all the accolades.

For example, I don't believe in Buddhism in the slightest. But when I visit the Buddhist temple for performing group, I'm all into it. I act like them, and everything. At first I didn't go along with them, and they treated me like I was trash. As soon as I started going along with their Buddhist garbage, I started being seen as the greatest human being on the face of the earth. I give Buddhist speeches there, I give Buddhist experiences, I uphold their beliefs as if I was one of them, etc. Then I talk about what a bunch of psychos they are to all of my friends.

Conclusion: When in whatever social group, don't just go along with them, totally get all into it. They will be like "Wow! Fellowtraveler has found Jesus!" Then to your friends or on the forums, you can express how you really feel.

“ Originally Posted by fellowtraveler
But I feel a growing need in me to be honest about it with people who are not that important to me and am willing to do so.
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Foolish move. You might as well go to your next job interviews with a resume explaining how much you hate the company you are trying to get a job at.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2451723&postcount=62
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Originally Posted by codanblad
what happens when they find out you're full of shit? another point, there was a quote in my old english classroom to the tune of 'men are unhappy because they lie'. my freudian interpretation of that is - you have to distort reality by bullshitting because the reality in which people would reject you is undesirable. your subconscious will get the shits with you for this. better to man up n represent while u find some like-minded companions, imo.
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They can't. If you tell somebody you're a certain religion, there is no way they can argue with you. "Hey, I believe in the toothfairy". "No you don't". There is no way they will find out that you're full of shit.

The validity in the psychology you mentioned regards those who lie for self-esteem reasons. Not for strategic reasons. Are you lying to prevent people from rejecting you because you don't want to 'feel' inferior? Or are you lying to prevent people from rejecting you so you can get ahead. You have to know where you're at strategically when you're lying. It is a very foolish strategy to tell the truth in the case of the OP. It's wise to cover up his real beliefs, and blend in with the natives so he doesn't get crucified. Blending in will get you everywhere. Especially if he starts participating in their conversations as if he was one of them.

Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
Well sinse im a-theist... i thank that alone qualifies me as bein "atheist".!!!
Then why would you derive the term in a way it wasn't meant to be derived?
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athe-ism is a derivation of "without theos"-ism. As such: 'without-diety' belief.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2452657&postcount=71
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fellowtraveler · Jan 16, 2010

Well, you have me thoroughly confused. I have no idea as to what you believe or do not believe . So I REALLY do not have a way to respond to you. I do not understand you. I am sorry for being unkind and I was. You did not deserve the unkind remarks I made. ...traveler

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Is being an atheist less acceptable than it was in the last 30 years in America ?

yes, most definately

no, it is the same as it was

I am not sure, but sense that is the trend

I really don`t know

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I really don`t know

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