Not at all, Max. Statistically speaking, there's bound to be a Republican whose corruption isn't so completely and utterly hypocritical. I mean, look at Fred Thompson: I don't think he's molesting runaways. Or Rudy Giuliani. And, hey, hating Catholics is nothing new--and resonates well with many evangelicals--so Huckabee's still in. Ron Paul? Well, he's not really a Republican. John McCain? What, excatly, is the GOP's problem with him? Is he too smart? Because as far as I know, he's smart enough to not get caught up in such sordid crap. Really, it must suck to be a social conservative lining up to back Thompson, Giuliani, or Romney. You'd think social conservatives would be strong enough to field a satisfactory candidate, since they're so close to the GOP base. But they, like anyone else--perhaps more than anyone else--want to win, and apparently can't find any candidate to match the power of the Hollywood elitist with the trophy wife or the former Mayor with three divorces under his belt and every appearance of a gaping ethical lack. (I'm not going to start a topic about it, but the Giuliani campaign, for what it's worth, has apparently started returning the $9.11 checks.)
Well, good, Tiassa. I was becoming concerned because of all the overt hatred that seems to be spreading around the site these days. I remember a time when I was the only one who hated everyone and everything, now it seems that everyone hates almost as much as me. Scary, huh? Baron Max
Yes, but your definitions and applications of words like "hatred" are suspect. This comes back to your definitions. Sure. But I'm guessing we disagree on what and why.
Well, that's part of the question about what's up with the GOP. You might actually be seeing part of that process play out on an unusually grand scale.
she is not equating fear with hatred but saying if you fear something odds are you will hate there is a difference and pretending that the
It's because conservatism and sexual deviancy go hand in hand. It that the answer you're looking for? The media watches conservatives much more closely . After all, they hate them. Here's a good example of the reason there are more scandals involving conservatives: You see. Flynt has a million dollar bounty on Republican's heads. Not to mention all the other journalists who, no doubt, cover up scandals involving people on their side of the aisle. If you seriously think there are fewer scumbags among Democrat politicians, you're very naive. 99% of them are scumbags. Party affiliation means nothing, one way or the other, when it comes to perversity and corruption.
You know how you crack at Gore cause he's a douche and a hypocrite? Or how lobbyists target their opponents with a smear campaign? Same thing. If you can turn the enemy into hypocrites, what ground can they stand on?
If you haven't a clue, how do you know what your opinion is about? You really don't get it? Wow. Seriously, man ... I know conservatives like to pretend they're stupid sometimes. If they pretend they need it explained to them, and someone explains it to them, then they can complain about "preachy liberals". Whatever. To reiterate: I would urge my conservative neighbors to understand that, really, it's just a coincidence of factors that leave the rest of us gasping. It's not just the idea of a sex scandal. I mean, think about it: if it was just good ol'-fashioned adultery, we'd probably ignore it. Really, wasn't there a GOP candidate for governor of ... was it Illinois? ... who dropped out of the race after it came to light that he'd been to a strip club? Even I thought that one silly, but he dropped the race as a gesture of principle that I can appreciate. He knew. It's the danger of standing on such platforms. If you're the sexually-moralizing party, sex scandals within the organization have a certain irony to them. Multiply that by the idea that these aren't mundane sex scandals, they're extraordinary. And then factor in the idea that, actually, they're not that extraordinary right now because these conservatives are setting the bar right now. Meth and hookers? Pot, beer, and boys? I mean, come on. McGreevy? No. Clinton? That was a blowjob. And come on. If Bill Clinton turned out to be a bigamist who had a secret gay marriage, now we'd be talking near to comparable. (#1578820/7)
If you read the article you posted, you may discover that the word "Republican" does not appear. Flynt claims to be focussing on hypocrites who legislate in the area of morality, and his ad fits that claim. If that turns out to involve mostly Republicans, in the real world, well - - - what can we say? btw: Baloney. The media in my area jsut got done falling all over themselves eulogizing a conservative Congressman - Jim Ramstad - who announced his retirement. Now don't get me wrong, I like Ramstad in general - but the guy had some faults, some missed calls on important issues, some failures of courage and reasoning: none of this appeared. Neither did any prying investigation into his personal life, good or bad, or any mean-spirited speculation about his motives. The papers and station were so happy to find a conservative who could be honestly praised for integrity, etc, that they just buried everything else. The media loves conservatives, and cuts them all kinds of slack - there is a limit, is all.
Oh, for f@ck's sake ..... And yet ... again? Okay, okay ... it's not a politician. Worse, it's a preacher/public schoolteacher: Remember, folks ... he's only accused. The federal porn case appears to stem from the local charges about drugging and molesting the boys; one of the alleged molestation victims has been positively identified in one of the porn photos that appear to have been taken in Love's basement. _____________________ Notes: Brady-Lunny, Elizabeth. "Former minister now faces child porn charges". Pantagraph.com. October 18, 2007. See http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/10/18/news/doc47164a0e47b34462996654.txt
Now this one ... what? Now, here's the thing. We can't say nobody got hurt. Obviously, someone's dead. But can we at least do away with that plank of the conservative argument that seems to purport that stronger Christian expression throughout society will save society from its sexual self-immolation? Because that is the irony that leaves everyone with their jaws open. Seriously, this death is tragic. But it's only embarrassing because it's a preacher with a asphyxiation kink and a dildo in his ass.
You're getting a bit morbid in your enjoyment of trajedy. Obviously, anyone, liberal or conservative, would be embarrassed to die in these circumstances.
What the hell is wrong with moralists? This is getting out of hand. And it's transcending mere political discussion. This goes beyond "politicians". Obsessive moralism may be a sign that not all about the moralist is balanced. Dan Savage, nationally renowned sex-advice columnist and editor of Seattle's The Stranger newspaper, gives us the update under the title "Youth Pastor Watch": • Alabama youth pastor (Southern Baptist) stung by FBI, arrested for crossing state lines to have sex with a minor. Donald Brent Page, 33, of Calera, Alabama, was arrested October 6 in Memphis, Tennessee, after arranging to meet a 13 year-old girl who was, in fact, an FBI agent. Page was allegedly arrested with condoms and wine coolers in his hand. (Note: Dogwood Grove Baptist Church is managing the transition as smoothly as circumstance allows.) • A former youth pastor in Florida has been sentenced to five years in prison after being convicted of receiving and possessing child pornography. I'm not entirely sure, but it would appear that Richard Steven Sweat, 36, of Orange Park, was busted by his wife. • In northern Kentucky, a former youth minister from Campbellsville is currently held on $10,000 bond while awaiting trial for using an electronic communication system to procure a minor. Or, more simply, he was trying to bang a teenage girl. • Savage also notes James Love (see #31 above); charges include molestation and production of child pornography. • And what's this? Embezzlement? Katrina Wischmann, 39, of 56 Preakness Street, Hanover, Pennsylvania, has been charged with embezzling in excess of $68,000 from Saint Paul's Lutheran Church; of the 21 felony counts she faces, absolutely none have anything to do with molesting children. Congratulations to Ms. Wischmann for netting allegations of mundane crime. • News from the north: The words "youth minister" come up in one of the most bizarre and morbid sex abuse stories I've read in a while. Have this link directly, it's far too morbid to explain. • And in Arkansas, Timothy Dean Clark, 38, has been arrested on allegations of raping a 13 year-old boy. Mr. Clark is not a youth minister. Rather, he's just the music director at the local Baptist church. Like I said, you'll need that Canadian link directly; I can't summarize that one for you. But all of the links are available through Savage's Slog entry. Meanwhile, Savage notes, a Christian advocacy group is up in arms after an episode of the CBS drama Cold Case: At least now we know it isn't just the Catholics. ____________________ Notes: Savage, Dan. "Youth Pastor Watch". Slog. October 23, 2007. See http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/youth_pastor_watch_condoms_and_wine_cool
Scandal brings tourism, you know: Savage, Dan. "You’ll Never Guess Where I’m Spending the Night". Slog. November 3, 2007. See http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/youll_never_guess_where_im_spending_the Oh, Dan ....
Got any statistical evidence that demonstrates that conservatives are more likely to be sexually deviant than liberals? Or are you merely going to rely on anecdotal evidence?
they aremore likely to be attacking people they precieve to be sexually deviant hence the backlash when they are found out to be sexually deviant
