I see your point and everything, but ... ... this is not how I meant it. You seem to be a synchronist, and so is Xev. I take the diachronistic approach, so we're bound to clash. * * * ... it only shows how transposing concepts from one theory into another makes them meaningless or nonsensical. Meaning cannot be atomistically defined. You seem to think it can be. After that, it is only a matter of might is right. I'm not. We have different theoretical backgrounds, so we clash. There is no need for you to take this tone. Nukes. And such. And I did not say that that would be "so bad a thing". Thank you. And it is these people who think themselves to be "a unit within society" and think that their existence and their thinking has nothing to do with society. "Exclusivistic individualism" -- "I am so special as if I had fallen from the moon. Nobody is anything like me." Point in question. For a mind with a creative potential, some initial opposition must be there, and be overcome, so that this person becomes competent in his creativity. For after all, those in mental institutions are also "creative".