Israel Uber Alles

Discussion in 'World Events' started by hypewaders, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    Right...the Romans named it after a group of people who had been nearly extinct 300 years earlier.
     
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  3. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    you know with all your bitching about people trying to commit genocide against the jews you really shouldn't bring up a people your own holy texts says you committed genocide against. also there are linguistic reasons they used the term Palestina( or whatever the latin was or is) they did.
     
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  5. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    That video was so dumb I thought this topic was just gonna get ignored.

    This youtube video forgot to clarify that the United States is backing Islrael.
     
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  7. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Ignored? Don't be philistine. Armageddon sick of it. There's no room for debate- Is raeli's small.
     
  8. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    In the Torah it's called Canaan, not Phlishtines.

    The Phlishtines were greeks potentially Syrian greeks who lived on the SouthWest of Israel. My bitching? When's the last time I started a thread about it...or even typed "Genocide" other than that specific case?

    Yeah...the Bar Kokba revolt which was maybe less than 100 years after they destroyed everything we owned...strange that we would revolt...why did we bring that on ourselves?
     
  9. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    CheskiChips said "Genocide". Simon (bar-kokhba) sez please stop disrupting my epiphany. I've only got 1 more hour of it, (Eastern Standard Time). If you keep this up, this important discussion may wind up in the cesspool.
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Well for one thing it would be Canaanites not Philistines. or Canaan not Philistine. land to land people to people

    first off the greeks were one of the first peoples that the romans encountered so it would be natural for them to refer to area using language referencing them. secondly you references to Israel's right to exist( which is equating the jewish peoples right to exist to a country) and in almost ever thread on the Israel/Palestinian conflict.

    you mean what they did to the jews during their last revolt. How they bring it upon themselves? oh I don't know challenging rome when they knowingly didn't have the military ability to counter the legions
     
  11. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    You're right pj, they were way out-gunnedspeared. How philistine was that?
     
  12. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    No, it was never referred to as 'the land of the philistines' in the book (Kings). Because they were on Jewish land, they were only referred to as 'Invaders'.

    First off; all of the Greeks were of not only different cultures...but different language dialects. Second; the Phlishtines didn't refer to themselves as Phlishtines....'Phlishitine' refers to them being sea invaders.
    Third; so what?

    Bar Kokhba was remarkably successful though in total a failure for whatever reason it was willed. It happened almost 150 years after the siege of Jerusalem as a result of Hadrian wanting to make Jerusalem a Roman Metropolis. In this sense...(the sense that they didn't pave over Jerusalem with Roman architecture)...it clearly succeeded.
     
  13. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    If Israel is so bad, and arabs hate it so much. Than why the fuck wont they leave? Oh yeah none of the arab countries want them because they think of the palestinians as unwanted scum. So much for a Muslim brotherhood and loyalty. You guys only bitch about israel because you hate them more than the palestinians.
     
  14. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    and you missed the point entirely. you were using Caanan( which is the naming the land) versus Philistines( which is naming the people). And no the Caananites weren't invaders the jews were according to the holy texts.

    and actually etymological evidence suggests that yes in fact in may have derived from the peoples' own term for them selves.



    not really a refutation or very well connected to my statement but whatever.
     
  15. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Things are clearer today, like the proven reality that ethnic separatism is for fools.
     
  16. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    of course because it breeds a lack of understanding which leads to fear which leads to hatred which leads to wishing to destroy.
     
  17. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    Right, okay...so?

    Even if it was relevant, prove it.
     
  18. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    You were using 2 different people and nation states interchangably when they were not interchangable.


    If you have to question the relevance there is not point in trying to prove it because you will not accept it.
     

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