Israel gives America orders to follow

the most recent was this deliberate mis translation :

 

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Jewish people were not liked by the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Persians protected them because the Babylonians didn't like them, the Romans didn't like their cousins the Xians (new-age Jewish), then back to the Egyptians AGAIN only now in Alexandria, then the Arabs, then the Europeans, then back around to the Italians AGAIN, then the Europeans AGAIN, then specifically the Germans, then the Russians, back to the Arabs, etc.. etc.. etc...

That is the History of things. The question is: Why?

Michael

 

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For the same reason that the Indians had no problems with them.

 

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Which is?

 

We have a different language and cuisine every few miles. Conformity is not required. Jews are nonconformists and western culture has always punished anyone who is a nonconformist.

 

No, that is definitely not the history of things. That's you naming a list of ancient empires/civilizations off the top of your head and including the word "Jews" in between.

Why what?

 

Multicultural nations are built on the principal of nationalism first and religion second. When it's reversed obviously there's going to be serious problems. Imagine if you had a group of 100 people, 5 people worked for their own interests because of their faith while the other 95 worked for the group. Do you think, maybe the 95 working for the benefit of the group begin to see the 5 who work for themselves, as leaching off the rest of the groups efforts? A couple generations of that and you'll find history repeating itself.

As for India and China, the Jews that migrated there became Indians and Chinese - so they became a part of the 95. BUT, I bet had that not happened, there would have been problems.

This isn't to say Judaism itself is to blame - just the underlying ideology that accompanies monotheism. How many monotheistic Jews were there in China? None, they all became Chinese and adopted the national religion and national holiday. Society simply works better like this.

 

Why do you think Nationalism is even a concept? It's obvious that "For the Glory of Rome" unites people. Why else would Nationalism be such an important concept?

I'm sure Machiavelli wrote something about this?

I'd even argue that the ambiguity of "Islam" or of "Arab Nationalism" or the misnomer of a "Jewish race" does the same thing as Nationalism and when sitting within a nation these concept will be at odds with one another. Surely you can see this?

M

 

Probably wrote, "it's good for economy"

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Being Indian or Chinese does not necessitate giving up your religous beliefs (well now, in China it does, but thats a different matter); its the reason why many Jews who lived in India and went to Israel came back because for the first time in their lives, they experienced racism. In Israel!

In India, they followed, more than any other Jews elsewhere, the traditional Judiasm without any harassment. In fact, there have been many Jews who have risen to prominent positions, like many Christians and many Muslims and atheists, but their belief or lack of it, has never been a part of the equation.

Your obsession with monotheism, for example, is very redolent of the Western obsession with Jews.

 

I'm not sure of the ancient history of Jews that migrates to India, BUT, as I have read of the Jews that migrated through India, to China, they are now Chinese.

India is a special situation because it has the world's oldest religion. Which is part of the basis of the Jewish beleif. I'd argue that India a special case. Certainly you'd never find such open mindedness from most monotheistic faiths. Just look at the way Xians treated European Polytheists, Jews and then Muslims. Look at how Muslims treated polytheists and discriminated (tax, employment opportunity, law, etc) based on beleif, lyour example of the Jews RETURNING from Israel back to India.

 

None of the Jews left the ME countries (where they had lived for thousands of years) until the deliberate imposition of Israel on the Palestinians led to their enforced expulsion either. And Egyptian Jews and Iranian Jews even today, prefer to live in their own countries, though they visit Israel. The Iranians because they consider themselves Iranian even though they are orthodox, the Egyptians because many of them are intermarried with Muslims and Christians (Jews were considered a "national asset" in Egypt before the formation of Israel and the Sinai campaign transformed them into a fifth column)

In fact, Jews were consistently invited back to Jerusalem when it fell under Muslim rule.

By the way, not all Jews who migrated to India have an ancient history. There were three waves of migrations, the latest being European Jews escaping pogroms. Most have left for Israel, which is a great pity. Its a loss to the Indian culture.

 

The world marks 60 years of zionist terror made possible by a corrupt U.S. president

(http://www.gregfelton.com/int_politics/2008_05_13.htm)

Some history for y`all.

 

To go back to the thread topic. If anyone is giving orders it's the USA. Obviously. Now, is that so they someone couldn't EASILY do a Jedi mind-trick (mindtrick? mind trick?) on Bush. Of course they could. Then next thing you know Bush will be ordering that Israel accept more aid (on our tab)!

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Why did no one answer my question about whether or not you guys have actually done something besides chatting on a message board to stop genocides?

If you care so much, what are you doing?

 

They are not doing anything. They'd rather talk about their anti-Semitism than actually help the people they believe are being wrong.

www.davidduke.com is where they belong

 

Oh please Arkantos. David Duke is a moron. Also, there is nothing wrong with pointing out perceived injustice. Why do the people that happen to be Jewish get a special word "anti-semitism"? I'd suggest anti-Atheism was a bad thing but people round these a-here parts prabably take that as a good thing yuck yuck yuck ...

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Maybe some of them take the chosen people thing far too literally, even the atheists it would seem.

 

Religious tolerance is a new idea in most areas?

It's not like the Greeks who conquered Israel were secular humanists. The governor put a statue of Zeus in the temple and killed a pig on the altar. The religious equivalent of "mine's bigger than yours". That led to a revolution by the Jews, which was successful, but the same tactic failed against Rome whose method of crushing uprisings would be considered horrendous by today's standards.

Countries have persecuted and expelled minority religions throughout history. The main difference with Judaism is that it has a very long history compared to younger religions, and unlike Catholics and Protestants in Europe, the minority could never flee to a state where the majority shared their religion.

Stop being a troll.

Special compared to what? Racism? Anglophobia? Islamophobia?

It wasn't Jews that came up with the word, it was German racists who thought Antisemiten sounded more scientific than Judenhass. According to the theories of the time, the only pure races were whites, blacks and Asians, so Jews had to be some kind of inherently evil mongrel. These racists wore the antisemite label proudly. The word only became pejorative once people saw the consequences of such hatred.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Etymology_and_usage

 

From your link:

So this guy puts in his own interpretation. Given the many instances of children having been sent on suicide missions by HAMAS it's fair to say the guy is an apologist tool with shit for brains.

And by the way, the word "resistance" is a very commonly used euphemism for commando-type military attacks (e.g. Hizballah is a "resistance" group).

More please

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