Islamic attitudes in the UK today

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  1. Vienna

    Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    And the guest speaker is Abu Hamza.....

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    Nah... Get yourself down there love, I suggest you should consider becoming a muslim - you seem happy enough with their company.

    Each to their own I guess.
     
    Vienna, Apr 26, 2004
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    Religion is a mental illness, no converting for me! Might get meself some free nosh though.
     
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  5. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Vienna:

    I thought your contention was that most Muslims have violent tendencies, or something like that. I've just shown you that there is no support for that statement. Yes, Islam has its terrorists, but so does Christianity, and every other religion.

    Is what they preach the real Islam, or are they mixing their politics with their religion?

    You missed the point. Let me review for you. You asked:

    You needed to read my response in the context of your question for it to make sense. Can you answer this: "When you see a CHRISTIAN (or an atheist, or a Buddhist), how would you determine whether they have the potential to be, or are, a terrorist? How do you tell the difference?"

    See? I am making the point that it is just as hard to pick a Hindu terrorist as it is to pick a Muslim terrorist. If you have a good way of identifying terrorist tendencies, then I'm sure the CIA, the FBI, MI6 and other organisations would love to hear from you.

    I'm not winding you up, and I'm not ignorant. I think you have a misguided view of today's attitudes in the Muslim world. I think you make rash generalisations and lump all Muslims into a single category, when in fact there are as many different kinds of Muslims as there are different kinds of people in any other group you'd like to name. I'm trying to make you think.

    Yes, it's one of those middle eastern countries, isn't it?

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    James R, Apr 26, 2004
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  7. James R

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    leda:

    Religious people seem to operate just fine in their day to day lives.
     
    James R, Apr 26, 2004
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  8. leda

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    And afterwards, which is the weird thing
     
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  9. Lemming3k

    Lemming3k Insanity Gone Mad Registered Senior Member

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    Its just a natural human thing, people need to believe something to keep living, atheists normally believe in something non-religious like being good to people or just believing in themselves, atheism is like breaking the programming in the matrix.

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    Lemming3k, Apr 26, 2004
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  10. Tiassa

    Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    It's Quakers.

    No. It's not a trap. This is what Quakers are really like. Should be interesting, and perhaps even enlightening.
     
    Tiassa, Apr 26, 2004
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  11. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Well, you've got a point there, leda.

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    James R, Apr 26, 2004
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  12. Vienna

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    LOL!

    Good idea, I might just join you..
     
    Vienna, Apr 26, 2004
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  13. Vienna

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    Yeah thats right - Also - Religious people like to believe thats there's something after death - Athiests believe there isn't.
     
    Vienna, Apr 26, 2004
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  14. Vienna

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    I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT.

    ROFLMAO

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    You don't know Islam very well.
     
    Vienna, Apr 26, 2004
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    LOL!

    It's about Muslims not Quakers
     
    Vienna, Apr 26, 2004
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    No James - This is exactly the point I was making to you

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    As you said YOU CAN'T identify which muslim is a terrorist, and a muslim which isn't. So I don't trust any of them.

    Not many Christian, Bhuddist or Atheist terrorists these days LOL!.

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    Thanks for bringing my point up.


    Whoa - 10 outta 10 James - way to go.......
     
    Vienna, Apr 26, 2004
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  17. Lemming3k

    Lemming3k Insanity Gone Mad Registered Senior Member

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    True, i find atheists more fun because they live this life to the full as they dont believe theres anything more to it.
     
    Lemming3k, Apr 26, 2004
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  18. Vienna

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    Just watching "Tonight" on BBC - Abu Hamza gets a free television slot - plenty of Islam terrorists in Manchester too. One muslim openly threats Tony Blair, Union Jacks burned by muslims
     
    Vienna, Apr 26, 2004
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    I know that There are a lot of people in the UK to visit this forum, but here's an American point of view. Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide. Let's see now... No Jesus, No television, No baseball, No football, No basketball, No hockey, No golf, No tailgate parties, No pork barbecue, No hot dogs, No burgers, No lobster, No shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks. No gumbo, No jambalaya. Rags for clothes and towels for hats. Constant wailing from the guy next-door because he's sick and there are no doctors. No chocolate chip cookies. No Christmas. MORE THAN ONE WIFE !!! More than one mother-in-law. You can't shave. Your wives can't shave. You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey cooked over burning camel dung. The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times. Your bride is picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey. But your donkey has a better disposition. Then they tell you that when you die it gets better!
    I mean, really, is there a mystery here ? J/K.

    - Cyorg

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    Cyorg, Apr 26, 2004
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  20. Vienna

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    LOL!

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    Now that really puts everything in perspective.

    You could almost feel sorry .. Nah! - Stuff em

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  21. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Vienna:

    Then I presume you don't trust anyone, because it's just as hard to identify non-Muslim terrorists.
     
    James R, Apr 27, 2004
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  22. Quantum Quack

    Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Cyorg, what you may say is in humour but if you look at it a little seriously you may very well be right...
     
    Quantum Quack, Apr 27, 2004
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  23. Vienna

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    ROFLMAO

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    You presume wrong again, jumping to ridiculous conclusions its becoming a habit with you. You haven't watched or read the news over the last few years have you....lol!
     
    Vienna, Apr 27, 2004
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