Islam and Terrorism

Discussion in 'World Events' started by sandy, Jan 27, 2008.

  1. sandy

    sandy Banned

    Moderator Note: I have renamed this thread to better reflect where the conversation has gravitated from the start. Previous title: Islamists Planned Attacks Across Europe.

    Islamist extremists were planning attacks across Europe, especially against public transport. The Al Qaeda-inspired cell planned to attack the Barcelona metro and other targets in Spain, Germany, France, Portugal and the United Kingdom. :mad:

    An informant told police the group had a preference for attacks on public transport, especially metro systems.

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  2. Arsalan

    Arsalan Registered Senior Member

    Terrorists... Putting Islam in front of them makes it seem that somehow their actions are islamic :(
  3. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful

    I find it really weird that four of the six were released due to "lack of evidence".
  4. spidergoat

    spidergoat alien lie form was discovered thanks to good police work. What was that about terror not being a law enforcement problem?
  5. Norsefire

    Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom

    Well, let's hope more of them are stopped.
  6. Read-Only

    Read-Only Valued Senior Member

    Sorry, but that won't stand up. They themselves identify themselves as being Islamic - why would they do that if they weren't?? :shrug:
  7. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful

    Do American terrorists exemplify America? After all, the guys who raped the fifteen year old then shot her and her five year old sister and burned their bodies were wearing uniform.
  8. Norsefire

    Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom

    Actually, that will. It does not matter what they label themselves if their actions go against Islam, therefore they are misinformed. Even if they believe they are Muslim, they have a distorted view of the Koran.
  9. sandy

    sandy Banned

    Which view is that?:confused:

    "The terrorists are not at all shy about explaining their motives. These Jihadis not only credit their Islamic faith with the violence, but are also more prone to quote from the Qur'an than are their counterparts, who tend to rely on a tiny handful of favorites from the earlier days of Muhammad's career when claiming that terrorism is somehow "against Islam."

    We have quoted a portion of the violent verses from the Qur'an and Hadith elsewhere. Here we just want to show that, as far as Islamic terrorists are concerned, their acts are done specifically in the name of Allah for the cause of Islam and Islamic rule... across the globe. :(
  10. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful

    You know sandy, that link represents Islam, like this one represents Christianity.

    Should we reference it as representative of Christian beliefs and values?
  11. sandy

    sandy Banned

    Tell me what part of it was wrong? Islamic terrorists are killing people all over the world every day. That site tracks them and reports them. It also proved that the Islamists are doing most of the killing in Iraq, not the troops. Show me one part of it that is wrong and I will contact the sites' owner and have him explain why he ran it.
  12. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful

    It would be like showing GWB's connection to evangelicals, his devotion to Christianity and his quotes about God and then calling him a Christian crusader out to kill Muslims.

    And that would actually be more accurate than something like this:

    e.g. Who is this official? Where? Who interviewed him? When?

    No real information, only insinuations. Most of the quotes there are like that, no links to real news stories, just quotes, translated and cut and paste selectively.

    Would you accept this?
  13. sandy

    sandy Banned

    He went to Iraq to take out Saddam. He's not interested in going "out to kill Muslims." He is determined to destroy terrorists (most of whom are Muslims) so I see your point.

    Of course not. The difference is that Jesus and the White House never said that, whereas the terrorists are shouting out to Allah before they kill. They brag about being pleasing to Allah by killing. Doesn't the Koran tell Muslims to convert/kill "infidels"?:confused:

    Educate me please. I am more than willing to hear you denounce terrorists. I certainly would denounce them if they were Christians.:(
  14. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 troaty mouth best song ever

    and yet you say the people who bomb abortion clinics do to there self stated christian beliefs are not christian
  15. sandy

    sandy Banned

    If an on fire for Jesus born-again Christian bombs an abortion clinic he is
    -not a Christian
    -having an insane moment
    -being a hypocrite
    -demon possessed.

    Born-again on fire for Jesus Christians don't blow up stuff. "Radicals who have hijacked Islam" do. Daily.

    I'm not saying Christians don't do stupid things or sin. They do. But I don't see them blowing stuff up.
  16. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 troaty mouth best song ever

    if you want to say islamic beliefs can inspire terrorism to be honest you also have to admit that so can christian beliefs
  17. Repo Man

    Repo Man Valued Senior Member

    I'd love to see this used as a defense in a trial. "The devil made me do it!"

    But yes, once again the semantic dodge. Christians who do evil, and plainly state that they were doing so because of a biblical justification, are not really Christians at all. Just as waterboarding isn't torture, because the U.S. doesn't torture people, but the U.S. does use waterboarding interrogating certain prisoners. Therefore, waterboarding is not torture! See how easy it is?

    Two brothers killed a gay couple in their nearby home a few years ago.

    They were affiliated with the Christian Identity movement, the same people who inspired Eric Rudolph to bomb the Olympics.

    You could argue that they "aren't really Christians", but that would be no different than arguing that those who use the Koran to justify killing "aren't really Muslims".
  18. Arsalan

    Arsalan Registered Senior Member

    This is another major flaw in this logic: they dont identifiy themselves as Muslims, they are Muslim because they come from areas which are predominantly Muslim! They dont say we are doing this because we are Muslim. Saying that is the height of stupidity.

    This guy has got it all right:

    And btw, iirc the most cases of terrorism take place in South Ameirca, hardly a Muslim area :rolleyes:

    Also, sandy, there are no verses in the Quran which support anything the terrorists do. In fact, creating disorder and terrorizing people is explicitly forbidden in the Quran!! But I bet you didnt know that, what a surprise eh
  19. sandy

    sandy Banned

    I have no problem calling a born-again Christian a dreadful @sshole if he is one like Ted Haggard the abomination. Muslims are using the Koran to justify their terrorism. Daily. :(

    Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
  20. pjdude1219

    pjdude1219 troaty mouth best song ever

    and christians use the bible as justifacation for their hatreds daily your point

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