Islam: A Revolution Within

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Tiassa, Feb 28, 2008.

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  1. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    I find threads like these quite funny. Especially when the ginorants come in and say its about time and blabla not knowing that reform is part of the teachings of Islam, in the office of the Mujaddids themselves.
     
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  3. Kadark Banned Banned

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    It wasn't widespread. It was only in remote areas. Besides, an Islamic revolution within isn't making up rules of your own - it's simply removing rules that shouldn't be there.

    I would, if I didn't feel sorry for you.
     
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  5. Kadark Banned Banned

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    You can't be serious.

    Take a look around. Everybody's opportunities are the same. Women's roles amongst Turks have always been great, and they're improving. Education is great (would be better with more money, but hey, what can you do?). Ancient (un)Islamic laws were thrown out the window, and baseless hadiths are continuously being rejected. There's a balance between religion and secularism, and the culture in and of itself sustains this balance. Turks are the most modernized and progressive Muslims in the world. They say "a Turk's only friend is another Turk" - I think it's jealously others have for us.
     
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  7. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Are women allowed to cover their heads in Turkey?
     
  8. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Of course they are!
     
  9. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Strange, i always heard other stories

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    Anyway, what do I know bout Turkey
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    What is the status of madrassas in Turkey?
     
  11. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Most people do (well, in the less populated cities, anyway). You're thinking about the ban on hijabs in universities. It has been removed.

    http://thinkgirl.net/?p=3223
     
  12. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Good to hear, religious freedom

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    Far more progressive than some Western countries who ban those
     
  13. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Agreed. Where are you from, by the way?
     
  14. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    the world ^ ^
     
  15. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Is that another way of saying, "I'm too ashamed to say India"?

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    In what sense of the word are you using "madrassas"?
     
  16. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    lol nah im not from India. Born in Pakistan, then lived in parts of Africa, now parts of Europe.
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Religious education, do you have a different word for it?

    I know Turks use medresse for their educational institutions.

    Probably because they invented the concept?

     
  18. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Anyway, I voted it's a good thing. You know, Turkey is kind of European and they kind of also remind me a little of Russian. At least all three have a long history together that dates back well well well before Islam. Probably sometime in the future Turkey and Europe and maybe Russia will have a basal level of Islam, Xian, Scientology, Baha'i, Mormon, Judaism, etc.. that will be found in pretty much any of the countries with the majority of people being secular. That is if things keep going as they are. If there is some sort of epidemic or WWIII well then who knows?

    A good second step... (making the nation secular being the BIG great first step).
     
  19. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Religion in school is taught to educate people on different religions. It's not for teaching people "facts" based off what certain religions say.

    Ex. Muhammad is the Prophet of Islam; Jesus in Christianity, etc.

    NOT: the Earth is 6K years old.

    Nice try.

    India must have adored it. They have 30,000 of them!
     
  20. Kadark Banned Banned

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    The further East you go in Turkey, the more it resembles M.E./Asian cultures/lifestyles. The further West you go, the more European you get.
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    So where do the Turkish fundies get their daily bread?


    Yes, its the only source of education for some very poor people too.

    There is in fact, a silent but very large movement in madrassa reforms going on in India.

    If you are interested here is a guy who has made a profession out of reporting on it.

    http://madrasareforms.blogspot.com/

    Curiously he's not even Muslim.
     
  22. Kadark Banned Banned

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    When you're pulling this irrelevant, nonsensical garbage out of your ass, it's clear you're finished. Every Turk has a right to voice their opinion on Turkish matters - this is not a right exclusive to one group.

    Yeah, and every Turk is wealthy enough to get a good education.

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    Your madrassas are for the poor - ours are established because we're all lunatics and fundies. Gotcha.
     
  23. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    The rest of us?

    You mean weak willed Muslim wiggaz like yourself, who can't submit fast enough to Uncle Sam.
     

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