Is it right to discriminate against tobacco smokers

No. You don't see that.
No. That's not obvious.

I see there's no use attempting a discussion with you.

 

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Let's agree that we disagree...even though I'm right.

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Absurd.

At this point, lame attempts at humor don't help.

 

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StrangerInAStrangeLa, the world does spin around your sun. There are other people who deserve just as much consideration as you do. Don't be so selfish.

 

YOU are the 1 who wants to force your smoke on others in enclosed spaces.

 

I am a smoker who wants to be left alone in my apartment or open spaces yet has consideration for others in enclosed spaces.

 

The dangers of smoke inhalation are from partially combusted organic materials, not the nicotine.

 

That's very noble of you. Although...I'm a little confused by your position on this matter. :shrug:

 

There are pretty stringent controls on the emissions from a car, and cars get better complete combustion than cigs. Gas also contains many, many fewer dangerous inorganics, such as heavy metals.

 

Roman, car exhaust will kill you quicker than would a lifetime of smoking.

 

Got a scientific study on that?

 

There's a quick and easy way to find out, but I wouldn't suggest you try it.

 

Wow, another dodge... colour me shocked. *turns an interesting shade of violet*

I'm not surprised you didn't respond in the other thread either.

Let us know when you can back up anything you say about secondhand smoke with any facts or info. Right now, all you are doing is parroting bullshit opinion and myths yourself, and you are wasting everyone's time. Repeating ignorant dogma over and over doesn't make it truth. Perhaps you can learn that from Baron Max... he seems to be baby steps ahead of you in that regard.

I smoked for years, and I quit when I decided to have kids. I have nothing against smokers at all, but saying that it doesn't harm people who don't smoke to breathe in your carbon monoxide and other harmful chemicals is really just plain stupid.

 

My biggest complaint with cigarettes is that on my pack there's a warning that claims smokers die younger.
It doesn't matter how many I smoke, I'm still getting older.
I'm gonna complain to advertising standards..

 

Whatever... You believe what you choose to believe.

 

You're probably right. But what it will accomplish is that far fewer people will smoke. And that it will be the norm, much more so than now, to not smoke.

I feel that the current way they tax tobacco is just for fattening up the treasury. I don't think it's mainly intended to get smokers to quit at all.
If they want smokers to quit they should raise the taxes on tobacco significantly, not by a few cents each time.

A lot of things are uncomfortable to different people, but that doesn't mean they should be banned.
Also, what's wrong with designated smokers areas in restaurants ?

 

Rien Poortvliet from "Het leven en werken van de kabouter" (your avatar) ?

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You probably know it under an English title though

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You may be right, but I would bet a good sum of money that exhaust fumes are not exactly good for you (understatement).

 

If I pee in a cup or pee in a stream.. there is still the same amount of piss

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hmm... what does this do??

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