Intelligent Design

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Xelasnave.1947, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    There isn't anything as powerful as the written word.
     
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  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Not for Republican voters. They rely on videos and TV and fundie sermons and radio yak.
     
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  5. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I dont agree.
    Tsunami comes to mind, then atomic bomb...maybe supernova...that is one of those sayings that are just wrong.

    Its like the pen is mightier than the sword...if in battle give me the sword and see who wins.

    Alex
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    We've had a lot of big tsunamis over the past 200 years. Still, most people would argue that the US Constitution was stronger (had more of an overall effect on the US, and the world.)
    But give me a pen (and you a sword) during an electromagnetics final and see which one of us passes!
     
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  8. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Well whatabout a tsunami an atomic bomb and a super nova combined☺...or what about just some pictures after all one picture is worth a thousand words.
    You could use a piece of charcoal and give me a nice ball point and your pass would be better than mine.
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    If you are enlightened, then enlighten us about this subject?
     
  10. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    My answer(thought) is in another related thread, in a relevant way. I'll post it here in case some people are not following the other one:

    God may of designed an alien who designs planets with life.

    The seed is filled with the relevant design specs and it is shot(meteor perhaps) into a pool of a water based substance.

    I tend to go with the simple answer from a complex question. I look at the planet, and really it's quite beautiful. I could complain about people but at the end of the day, I go with Superman's fathers opinion on that one.the planet has got such a rich past too.

    I look inside living things and see that all animals AND humans are coded, even with a randomise function!

    The alternative... abiogenesis? If I could see a demonstration of this, I would believe, like everyone else who ponder these type of questions.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    None of those things were able to put a man on the Moon.

    Sure. If you choose your precondition carefully - and your opponent is also willing.

    Anywhere else other than in a battle, the pen will win.

    The pen can destroy a person whether they choose to engage in a battle or not.
     
  12. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    One of the two greatest discoveries the wheel, and the pencil!
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well, writing is often considered the thing that propelled us out of animalism.
    Once we could record knowledge, we didn't have to relearn it all from scratch.
     
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  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    As can the sword.
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    Illiterates invented cooking, clothing, fabric, rope, knots, boats, walls, controlled fire, pottery, the lever, the bow and arrow, the domesticated plant and animal and microbe, musical instruments, the epic poem, the road, the bridge, medicine, marriage, inheritance - - -
     
  15. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Do you not think they chisled out beer recipes?
     
  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Yet each can kill multiple humans.
    Try cutting up your dead animal for dinner with a pen☺
    Alex
     
  17. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Easy. You write on your shopping list all the gear you need, the wife brings it home, shouldn't take too long. if you actually do live in the middle of nowhere, I suggest guns/knifes etc. not pens.
     
  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    A little South of the middle.☺.
    I spend half in the city these days which I really dont like....anyways I think all now agree that there can be no designer of a mythical designer and further why would you need a designer for an eternal universe...although I was looking at a feather from my visiting peacock and thought what a beautiful design how could something like that just evolve...and even then I did not think it must be due to a creator knowing the universe is eternal stops such crazy thoughts.

    Alex
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not without breaking the law. For which there'll be dire consequences.

    I was suggesting the pen is mightier because it can attack a person with impunity. You can turn any or all of their friends and associates against them quite legally.
     
  20. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The people who invented beer were illiterate.
     
  21. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    The use of the pen is restricted by the law of libel.

    Alex
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The truth is a perfectly valid defense for a libel accusation.
     
  23. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Sure but you said something about impunity without such a qualification.

    In any event I still believe the saying is silly which is often a product of these seemingly clever generalisations that simply dont stand up when when you look at them closely.



    Alex
     

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