Infinite Life

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  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    Infinite Life: Seven virtues for Living Well by Robert Thurman. A great book to understand either Jnana Yoga in Hinduism or Enlightenment in Budhhism. Worth a read.

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  3. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    Judging by the title it sounds like another self-help book.
     
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  5. SkippingStones splunk! Registered Senior Member

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    Reading self help books makes me feel like I've achieved something, grown smarter, and am better off. The only problem is I can never remember what it was I read exactly. Then I start thinking for myself again and I'm fine.
     
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  7. oscar confusoid Registered Senior Member

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    The thought of self-help books makes me cringe. No wait, I shrink like a frightened turtle!

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  8. kmguru Staff Member

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    Self-help books rarely help anyone in a major way. Look at the Bible and Quran. The two major self help books out there and see how many as*holes out there!

    They only help to strengthen ones thought processes. In other words, if you are an understanding, caring and sharing person, after reading the books, you do not go postal.

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  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Infinite life, 30% off, what a bargain!
     
  10. oscar confusoid Registered Senior Member

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    I said it before and I'll say it again...there is nothing I have seen in this world that you can pay for that you don't already have somehow or that you can't make up for the lack of it.

    *reads carefully* 32% ! They are definitely on to something :bugeye:

    Ooooh get your "secrets of the matrix" ads off me at once ! Why you, I'll ad-munch your bloody guts out of you !
     
  11. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    You could save our money by giving a briefing about this book...Just a small gist...

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    Start with : Infinite Life : 100% off

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    just kidding...
    bye!
     
  12. kmguru Staff Member

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    Your wish is my command....

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    <b>An Excerpt from Infinite Life: Seven Virtues for Living Well by Robert Thurman</b>

    American Buddhist monk and scholar Robert Thurman explains the seven virtues treasured in Tibetan Buddhism and offers practices to help you cultivate them. The intention of this powerful meditation is to help you develop your patience and compassion through a practice of nonretaliation or forgiveness.

    "Imagine your loved ones being killed or hurt. Picture several different scenarios. As you did when you were visualizing yourself being harmed, distinguish between the cases in which you have some defense or recourse and those in which you have none. In the worst-case scenario, when you can do nothing but stand by and watch your love ones die, feel the waves of nauseating sadness and disbelief wash over you. But then rehearse not hating even the most heinous perpetrator, the murderer of your beloved children. How many times throughout human history has someone killed another person's children, and then the victim has immediately turned around and killed the murderer or his children? This cycle of violence continues to grow worse and worse, often going on for generations and generations, and the victims multiply. What's more, if you get angry and feel vengeful toward the harmer, you become obsessed only with doing him violence and you forget about helping your harmed beloved. You turn unloving and withdraw from bliss, abandoning your lost loved one in a state of confused suffering, whether alive or dead and floating in the between-space before entering a new life.”

    "Next imagine your cherished property being ruined. Vandals have come upon your lovely home. They laugh and sneer as they shoot out the windows, destroy your furniture, and trash your memorabilia. Try to imagine this scene very vividly, so that even in your meditative state you feel startled and shocked. But continue practicing until you can fully understand not reacting with hatred. Finally, imagine the vandals desecrating your most sacred image — a Jesus on the cross figure, a Buddha statue, an Allah calligraphy, a picture of your favorite mentor, or a painting of a saint. Stay with the visualization, critiquing the rising anger and sense of outrage within you. Think about how the real Buddha, Jesus, Allah, wise person or saint — none of them is even remotely destroyed by the foolish vandals' bad behavior. In fact, they themselves would not have grown angry over their own images being ruined. You will soon be able to feel sympathetic toward these poor vandals who are earning for themselves a large wave of negative evolutionary momentum.

    "Your meditation along these lines, your rehearsal practice for daily encounters with persons and events that habitually make you angry, will definitely progress over time. But you will know you have achieved a major breakthrough when you find it imaginable to feel sorry for the people who do you harm. Your enemies — who are under the influence of the real enemy, anger — will seem blind, their actions crippled by habit. In fact, you will even start to appreciate them for giving you the opportunity to develop your heroic armor of patience. They inspire in you the strength to build your peaceful fortress of tolerance, where nothing can disturb you. They help you fly the joyful banner of forgiveness, which articulates the bliss of your freedom from all bitterness."
     
  13. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    oh,well,this could be real difficult for me at least.I am very very impulsive.It can only be done (in my case) when you use Sorcery of some kind...

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    .I think the book as your gist implies assumes that Rage can only be destroyed when you face it and finally reduce it to lower levels and ultimately zeroing it.To some extent this thought of action may prove to be accurate,yes...interesting...

    bye!
     
  14. river-wind Valued Senior Member

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    buddhism in daily practice. Just like everything else, practice is the key. If you want to climb a mountain, you have to start with foothills, and work hard everyday.

    If you want to not be emotionally destroyed by the death of a loved one, then practice what that expirience would be like. for you, for them. You will come to cherish every moment you have with them, because you will no longer be afraid of understanding the finite nature of it.

    It's pretty harsh stuff, but I vouch for it. Fear is often the worst emotion to deal with, and fear is most often due to a lack of understanding.

    thanks, kmguru!
     
  15. philocrazy Banned Banned

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    are you for real
    first ask what is you
    then ask
    what is infinite
    then
    ask
    what is infinite life
    then
    you have it all
    then
    what a mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    look at the world of today!!!!
    youve solved all its problems!!!!

    here have infinite life
    and make a mess of everything in
    infinity

    people youre turning this forum into a joke!!!!!!!!
    what is philosophy??????????
    do you know or not


    Philosopher Philocrazy
     

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