UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Looks like a plane with it's metallic propeller reflecting the sun. Next.
     
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    Just hovering there in midair? And that's an awful big propeller relative to the craft itself.
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    The video does not show one way or the other if it was hovering. Some planes have huge propellers. For all we know, it could have been an RC.
     
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    Can you post a pic of an aircraft with one giant propeller on the front of it?
     
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    I'd imagine a plane like that would make alot of noise. I don't hear anything in the video of the ufo other than people speaking.
     
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    Mick West has an interesting take on this case:
    He makes it to be another plane eight miles distant and 15,000 ft lower.
    https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mufon-case-105762-white-cigar-following-plane-another-plane.11097/


    Mick West again: Follow link to see his result. (Same page as above address but lower down that page.)
    https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mu...llowing-plane-another-plane.11097/post-236369
     
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    Hoaxing 101: nothing is more effective at making a faked video appear real than an apparent struggle to focus.

    Long distance focal range is vast - starts at less than a hundred yards and extends out to infinity. It is very difficult not to have something in-focus. You kinda have to work at it.
    It hurts credibility that this video appears to struggle so much with getting focus.
     
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    Wow.

    A known aircraft flying in exactly the correct location at the right height and distance. Hard to get more debunked than that.

    Also very interesting to note how easy it is for a distant airplane to be mistaken for a UFO.

    Also very interesting to note how easy it is for something to be concluded to be a UFO - only to turn out later to be a known mundane craft.

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    That's why I opined it might be an electric RC, which makes virtually no noise at all. As mentioned, they tried very hard to keep it out of focus, which is suspect to being a hoax. Have a look at any videos of RC planes or videos of folks at the end of airport runways taking videos of landing craft, they are in focus. It's probably a hoax.
     
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    Let's see if Magical Realist is willing to admit that this one is more or less conclusively identified. My bet is that he'll ignore he debunking and move on to the next shiny pebble.
     
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    At least you've graduated past "the next shiny bauble." You might actually be evolving.

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    Followed by Jan saying god does not exist

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  18. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    And you can't make out the ''windows''.
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So: yes or no?
     
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    White or silver disc-shaped or tic tac-shaped object filmed in Boone County Missouri flying horizontally across the sky. Two others are mentioned that were also sighted by the eyewitnesses. The object is wingless and without any visible means of propulsion. It's not a weather balloon, a bird, a cloud, or an airplane. What say you?

    https://www.mufon.com/
     
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    Much like an airplane's fuselage.

    Yes. Not evident in the video.

    It may or may not have wings. Quite a few frames look like they're picking up some contrast where wings might be.

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    It is surprising how often wings are not apparent on a commercial jet seen at a great distance. If they are not reflecting the sun the same way the fuselage is, there is so little contrast that they just disappear into the background.

    I live in a major metropolis, and planes fly at cruising altitude overhead all the time. You would be astonished at how different they can look depending on the angle of the sun.

    Here's a plane where the fuselage is orders of magnitude more contrasty than the wings.
    Sure, you can still see them, but this is much closer than the MUFON video.

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    It has no more less less visible means of propulsion than a jet at that distance.


    Airplane cannot be ruled out.

    With the exception of not being able to make out wings at that distance, it is completely consistent with the look and behavior of an airplane.
     
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  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    It would not hurt you to address this.

    Acknowledging that, sometimes, unidentified flying objects are subsequently identified would go a long way toward your credibility.
     
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