UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

[Magical Realist]

Here's another unusual object filmed in Cuba. This one is even strange by typical ufo standards. The object does have wings, appears to be hovering, and has a strange plasma-like luminosity unlike any known aircraft. It's not a weather balloon, a bird, or a cloud. Conclusion? It's a ufo.

https://www.theweirdufoshow.com/post/video-of-wild-looking-ufo-over-cuba-goes-viral

 

[(Q)]

Here's another unusual object filmed in Cuba. This one is even strange for typical ufos. The object does have wings, appears to be hovering, and has a strange plasma-like luminosity unlike any known aircraft. It's not a weather balloon, a bird, or a cloud. Conclusion? It's a ufo.

https://www.theweirdufoshow.com/post/video-of-wild-looking-ufo-over-cuba-goes-viral

Looks like a plane with it's metallic propeller reflecting the sun. Next.

 

[Magical Realist]

Looks like a plane with it's metallic propeller reflecting the sun. Next.

Just hovering there in midair? And that's an awful big propeller relative to the craft itself.

 

[(Q)]

Just hovering there in midair? That's an awful big propeller relative to the craft itself.

The video does not show one way or the other if it was hovering. Some planes have huge propellers. For all we know, it could have been an RC.

 

[Magical Realist]

The video does not show one way or the other if it was hovering. Some planes have huge propellers. For all we know, it could have been an RC.

Can you post a pic of an aircraft with one giant propeller on the front of it?

 

[(Q)]

 

[Magical Realist]

I'd imagine a plane like that would make alot of noise. I don't hear anything in the video of the ufo other than people speaking.

 

[foghorn]

- bright elongated featureless shape (actual shape ambiguous - only one angle of view)
- no visible wings (doesn't exclude lifting body or lighter-than-air)
- propulsion ambiguous (may not have any)
- direction of motion of observer unknown (might be deducible with further analysis) - and thus
- direction and speed of motion of object unknown (could be stationary for all we know) Definitely unidentified.

Mick West has an interesting take on this case:
He makes it to be another plane eight miles distant and 15,000 ft lower.

Lucklily the original file was uploaded to the MUFON database, and it had both a timestamp, and GPS location!

With this it was a relatively simple matter to find both the plane, and the white object, which of course turned out to be another plane.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mufon-case-105762-white-cigar-following-plane-another-plane.11097/


Mick West again: Follow link to see his result. (Same page as above address but lower down that page.)

I put the camera roughtly in the private jet's position in Google Earth and imported the UAL541 flight track:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mu...llowing-plane-another-plane.11097/post-236369

 

[DaveC426913]

https://www.theweirdufoshow.com/post/video-of-wild-looking-ufo-over-cuba-goes-viral

Hoaxing 101: nothing is more effective at making a faked video appear real than an apparent struggle to focus.

Long distance focal range is vast - starts at less than a hundred yards and extends out to infinity. It is very difficult not to have something in-focus. You kinda have to work at it.
It hurts credibility that this video appears to struggle so much with getting focus.

 

[DaveC426913]

Mick West has an interesting take on this case:
He makes it to be another plane eight miles distant and 15,000 ft lower.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mufon-case-105762-white-cigar-following-plane-another-plane.11097/
Mick West again: Follow link to see his result. (Same page as above address but lower down that page.)
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mu...llowing-plane-another-plane.11097/post-236369

Wow.

A known aircraft flying in exactly the correct location at the right height and distance. Hard to get more debunked than that.

Also very interesting to note how easy it is for a distant airplane to be mistaken for a UFO.

Also very interesting to note how easy it is for something to be concluded to be a UFO - only to turn out later to be a known mundane craft.

 

[(Q)]

I'd imagine a plane like that would make alot of noise. I don't hear anything in the video of the ufo other than people speaking.

That's why I opined it might be an electric RC, which makes virtually no noise at all. As mentioned, they tried very hard to keep it out of focus, which is suspect to being a hoax. Have a look at any videos of RC planes or videos of folks at the end of airport runways taking videos of landing craft, they are in focus. It's probably a hoax.

 

[James R]

A known aircraft flying in exactly the correct location at the right height and distance. Hard to get more debunked than that.

Let's see if Magical Realist is willing to admit that this one is more or less conclusively identified. My bet is that he'll ignore he debunking and move on to the next shiny pebble.

 

[Magical Realist]

Let's see if Magical Realist is willing to admit that this one is more or less conclusively identified. My bet is that he'll ignore he debunking and move on to the next shiny pebble.

At least you've graduated past "the next shiny bauble." You might actually be evolving.

 

[Michael 345]

Let's see if Magical Realist is willing to admit that this one is more or less conclusively identified. My bet is that he'll ignore he debunking and move on to the next shiny pebble.

Followed by Jan saying god does not exist

 

[foghorn]

Wow.

And you can't make out the ''windows''.

Many ufos have also been spotted with windows. That makes them craft.

 

[DaveC426913]

At least you've graduated past "the next shiny bauble." You might actually be evolving.

So: yes or no?

 

[Magical Realist]

White or silver disc-shaped or tic tac-shaped object filmed in Boone County Missouri flying horizontally across the sky. Two others are mentioned that were also sighted by the eyewitnesses. The object is wingless and without any visible means of propulsion. It's not a weather balloon, a bird, a cloud, or an airplane. What say you?

https://www.mufon.com/

 

[DaveC426913]

White or silver disc-shaped or tic tac-shaped object filmed in Boone County Missouri flying horizontally across the sky.

Much like an airplane's fuselage.

Two others are mentioned that were also sighted by the eyewitnesses.

Yes. Not evident in the video.

The object is wingless

It may or may not have wings. Quite a few frames look like they're picking up some contrast where wings might be.



It is surprising how often wings are not apparent on a commercial jet seen at a great distance. If they are not reflecting the sun the same way the fuselage is, there is so little contrast that they just disappear into the background.

I live in a major metropolis, and planes fly at cruising altitude overhead all the time. You would be astonished at how different they can look depending on the angle of the sun.

Here's a plane where the fuselage is orders of magnitude more contrasty than the wings.
Sure, you can still see them, but this is much closer than the MUFON video.

and without any visible means of propulsion.

It has no more less less visible means of propulsion than a jet at that distance.

It's not a weather balloon, a bird, a cloud, or an airplane.

Airplane cannot be ruled out.

It's not a weather balloon, a bird, a cloud, or an airplane. What say you?

With the exception of not being able to make out wings at that distance, it is completely consistent with the look and behavior of an airplane.

 

[DaveC426913]

Let's see if Magical Realist is willing to admit that this one is more or less conclusively identified.

It would not hurt you to address this.

Acknowledging that, sometimes, unidentified flying objects are subsequently identified would go a long way toward your credibility.

 

[Magical Realist]

Wings on planes are quite visible from the ground directly below the plane.

They're even visible from the side of the plane..Also the tail rudder is visible from that angle. See below video.

https://ak2.picdn.net/shutterstock/...ng-high-in-the-sky-leaving-a-white-trail.webm