If there is intelligent life why can't we detect it?

I don't have a patent on it yet

 

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Well then just give us a general overview.

 

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http://www.google.com/patents/US4508192
actually its already an invention. My idea is to use the highly sensitive elastic microphone to test for gravity waves. I have an experimental idea for the use of this invention to test for gravity waves here on earth. My idea originates from the theory that in order to hear gravity waves, one would have to listen for them like a whispering person in a stadium of yelling fans, by placing your ear directly in their face. The experiment requires that the whole arrangement be enclosed in a vacuum. The experiment involves shooting a cannonball into a loop structure so that it circles around rapidly. The loop structure has a 3 inch square cut out from it. An elastic microphone is placed in a proximity of one millimeter of distance from the reach of the cannonball through the cutout. The experiment further includes the idea of allowing for the elastic microphone to enter a 'free fall' state by placing the instrument in a holder and attaching the holder to a slinky device that is held up so that the slinky is outstretched vertically. When let go the slinky causes a momentary free fall effect in the microphone; This is done repeatedly in one test. The free fall effect, and the vacuum theoretically would eliminate seismic and atmospheric noise.The gravity waves are obviously weak but the gravity sensitive elastic may provide a sensitive enough detector.

 

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And how will it compensate for traffic movement outside the building?
Or shifts in the building due to winds?
Or people walking past?
Or thermal noise/ expansion of the container?
You obviously don't understand how low the frequency is, despite being given the figures.

 

frequency can be adjusted with thickness of the elastic. the spinning ball would be loudest to the microphone over building winds or people walking. thermal heat would be at the blst point I think not the loop structure. The gasses would be present possibly from the decomposition of the fuel that was left in the room in the first place into Einstein's mass to energy equation.

 

Posting meaningless drivel doesn't answer my questions.

 

Was that suposed to make sense?

 

You have to look at it 3 dimensionally, the elastic is stronger at picking up vibrations in the area then a paper or plastic diaphragm , the frequency determines if the signal is more bass or treble.

 

Hey, here's a challenge. Let's all see if it's possible to provide feedback without utterly denigrating the poster in the process.

 

Trevor, a far more accurate way to detect distances is with lasers. They can detect movements down to nanometers, much better than any elastic membrane, and they are not subject to a multitude of noise factors that would utterly confound your setup. For example, accelerating a cannonball will cause it to distort and reverberate.

The issue isn't with measuring the movement of the mass, it is with the movement of the mass being cluttered with noises far, far smaller than you are introducing with shooting masses around, using necessarily imperfect physical membranes, microphones, etc.

 

my answer: you have matter and energy.thats it. lasers are energy and elastic is matter. would it not be better to use matter to detect waves created by the movement of matter? see elastic is like a molecular spring force, this would be a pretty good scale. I have my doubts you can detect gravity waves with a laser can you detect radio waves with an optical telescope? it seems fishy to me. And I ve heard the old cliche since I was twelve, that they're to weak to detect locally, but has anyone ever proposed a system like the cannonball/loop structure to create an oscillating force?

 

Lasers detect distance, not gravity.

You are looking for movement in a large mass' that's all the detector needs to do. The laser will detect the movement accurately.

The distances we are talking about are smaller than the molecules in your membrane. It's like a bulldozer testing the fluttering of a flower.

The problem to be solved is not detection, it is getting the mass to move due to gravity waves as opposed to other causes.

 

that sounds different then my experiment

 

I agree. What I'm talking about is measuring gravity waves. I'm not sure what your experiment will do.

 

No Extraterrestrial Laser Pulses Detected, SETI Reports
http://www.wirelessdesignmag.com/ne...?et_cid=4993396&et_rid=439217393&location=top

 

Old news, and certainly does not in any way detract from the probablity of ETI existing somewhere, sometime....
Time and distance are huge barriers that inhibit contact and even detection.

 

OK. My apologies. I see your frustration now:
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/is...-a-subconscious-language.153494/#post-3345736

 

I m going to post my theory on gravity and what gravity waves are. That will explain the effect I intend to cause with the cannonball.

This I'm not sure of. The free fall effect is caused by two energies canceling each other out, the energy of the slinky dropping as a whole, and the energy stored in the slinky as a spring. I've only ever seen this done as a magic trick on coast to coast am website. There was no physics or explanation to it. So long answer short I couldn't tell you.