If atheists are right - how come there are so few of them?

Its' usually a rival religion or sect that tries to crush based on similarity of beliefs not atheists or agnostics. Actually most atheists or agnostics could care less. I don't care if they have faith or if they believe in whatever they do. It's how they try to push it on others that it's the only way and that is as crushing and despotic as anything. Honestly they have to be bucked at.

The most heinous thing about religion is they believe(but won't admit unless in private and your a captive audience) if one of them commits a crime or sin against you, the victim does not have a right to judge them, only god. I say fuck their god because they sinned against me, not an imaginary being. If they didn't want to be judged, they should take personal accountability. That is secretly what they don't want to do and a loophole they create as an escape. It's deception, strawmans and a form of evasiveness. Religion and how they twistedly and contrivedly evolved their god and rules has an agenda and that agenda is POWER. Period.

 

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Both words have very different meanings.

1. All specific claims of 'God' have no supportive evidence and this has been so since man has issued claims of 'God'. Absence of evidence over many millenia becomes evidence of absence.

2. All specific claims of 'God' come with assertions about objective reality in the past, present, and future. Most of those assertions have been shown to be incorrect as a result of science (ex. Hhow humans are what they are today).

3. All specific claims of 'God' come with assertions that contradict each other. Reality does not support contradiction.

 

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Don't let mythical and superstitious based cults control your life with ignorance and fear.

How's that for an attractive message?

 

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Its because atheism is a random, undefined belief system. Humans naturally crave structure, which is why even atheists cannot stop talking about religion and morality, or seek other kinds of structure (ie perfect society) in the absence of theism. Its not a successful model.

 

havent read the thread,just popped in to say that the title is impressively stupid.
since when has being right been popular?

 

Sam, you actually have to know what atheism is about before commenting. By doing so without knowing, you look the fool.

 

There are many kinds of atheism, which one are you referring to?

 

I agree. I have met some militant atheists and they are scary. Their atheism has become their religion and they wanna convert everyone.

 

er, yes and some of them are even on this forum

 

so what other kinds of atheism are there? I'm atheistic and I was wondering if I'm considered one of the categories.

 

Depends on how you project yourself

e.g. you might actually believe there is no god, but since that puts you on par with theists in terms of "rational thought" you might claim to actively disbelieve in god

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That apparently is a whole other can of worms balanced on a delicate scale from agnostic theist to agnostic to agnostic atheist to militant atheist to confused person

 

LMAO.

Yeah. I guess I'm just a non-believer then.

 

Darn, I felt sure you must be the confused person.

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Please describe a 'militant' atheist, considering that 'militant' implies violence?

 

The guys who destroyed all those churches and killed off all those priests and nuns in Russia, for example.

 

Got a link?

And, you didn't answer the question.

 

To prove God doesn't exist, you need to replace God with a provable explanation for the existence of the universe. Until atheists can do that, there is no way you can shut out the possibility of God's existence.

 

Yes and I did.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0195051807/lewrockwell/

The pen is more powerful than the sword, don't you know?

 

you mean the Bolsheviks, are they the militant atheists, lol.

People of faith often claim that the crimes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the inevitable product of unbelief. The problem with fascism and communism, however, is not that they are too critical of religion; the problem is that they are too much like religions. Such regimes are dogmatic to the core and generally give rise to personality cults that are indistinguishable from cults of religious hero worship. Auschwitz, the gulag and the killing fields were not examples of what happens when human beings reject religious dogma; they are examples of political, racial and nationalistic dogma run amok. There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable.

this is a common mistake made by theists, typically those of the fundy type, they believe atheism is essentially socialist or communist in nature. Thus, atheism should be rejected since socialism and communism are evil. How stupid!

the first thing we should note is there is an automatic and almost unconscious assumption made by these theists that their religion is somehow equivalent with captialism.

Communism is not, however, inherently atheistic. It is possible to have communistic or socialistic views while being a theist and it isn't at all wrong to be an atheist while staunchly defending capitalism, which is a combination often found among objectivists and libertarians.
their existence alone demonstrates, that atheism and communism are not the same thing.

is christianity opposed to communism? No, the opposite, actually. There is nothing in the gospels which even so much as suggests a divine preference for captialism, now is there.

quite a bit of what Jesus said supports many of the of socialism and even communism. http://latter-rain.com/general/commu.htm
He specifically said that that people should give all they could to the poor and that "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

basic communism states to hold all property in common rather than privately, is practiced by numerous Christian communities now and throughout history. references to it can be found in Acts:

Acts 4:33-35 "With great power the apostles gave their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. "
The similarity to Marx's principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" should be obvious.

and here again in Acts:

Acts 5:1-11 "But a man named Ananias, with the consent of his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property; with his wife’s knowledge, he kept back some of the proceeds, and brought only a part and laid it at the apostles’ feet. "Ananias," Peter asked, "why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the proceeds of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, were not the proceeds at your disposal? How is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You did not lie to us but to God!" Now when Ananias heard these words, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard of it.

The young men came and wrapped up his body, then carried him out and buried him. After an interval of about three hours his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. Peter said to her, "Tell me whether you and your husband sold the land for such and such a price." And she said, "Yes, that was the price." Then Peter said to her, "How is it that you have agreed together to put the Spirit of the Lord to the test? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out." Immediately she fell down at his feet and died. When the young men came in they found her dead, so they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. And great fear seized the whole church and all who heard of these things."

their deaths served as an example to all the others of what would happen if they, too, held back profits for themselves instead of giving everything to the community.
so we can see that this was the first christian commune(ist) society.

so please lets get away from this silly reference to atheism and communism being the same, the bible is basically a communist manifesto.

 

Why does anyone need to replace a fantasy with reality, when the fantasy has no basis in reality?

Why should the possibility for the existence of a god (and you haven't mentioned which god you refer) remain a possibility when not a shred of evidence suggests such a thing?