Hurricane characterisitcs

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by kingwinner, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. valich Registered Senior Member

    On the contrary, I am not "censuring" any debate: only trying to keep it relevant to the forum: hurricanes.

    What you posted above, and the quite a few above posts, may be relevant to other types of vortexes, in particular plasma vortexes, but are totally irrelevant to hurricanes and tornsadoes. The same goes for your above diagram and the Taylor column phenomena. This is not relevant to hurricanes or tornadoes. The "experimental" Taylor Column "phenomena" has no relation to hurricanes or tornados. The last 2-3 pages on this forum belong on a seperate post, called "Vortexes," and are misleading to viewers wanting to find out about hurricanes, and tornado and hurrican formation.

    If you wish to discuss other types of vortexes, then YOU should open a new thread, rather contaminating and misleading viewers on this one.

    This forum is called "Hurricane characteristics," not plasma, magnetosphere, or ice vortex characteristics.

    Also, your website link above is invalid: "This page canot be displayed." Also: - "cannot be displayd."
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  3. URI IMU Registered Senior Member

    >> Wallace Thornhill and others proposed at least a decade ago that dust devils, tornadoes, and waterspouts are essentially electric discharge phenomena.

    A NASA news release, July 14, 2005, has given official sanction to this idea, based on new research. This involved chasing dust devils in the Arizona desert where investigators were surprised to find that the vortices were electrically charged.>>
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  5. Light Registered Senior Member

    Get real, Uri. Any true scientist already knows that it's common for swirling dust - as on both Mars and Earth - to acquire an electrical charge. It's even common in flour mills and grain silos. Anywhere there is finely divided material - no water vapor needed. But the phrase electrical discharge phenomena is pure bunk in relation to those weather-generated things.

    That site that you gave the link to is so full of misinformation and misstatements that it isn't even amusing - much less scientific. It's been known for many years (contrary to that site) that space is far from being "electrically sterile" as that site would have you to believe that science thinks. Need I even mention solar wind? The ionosphere? Northern (and Southern) lights?

    The ionosphere has been used since the 1940 to make long-range radio communications possible by OTH (Over The Horizon) broadcasts. And even ordinary, average people have long known it was responsible for them being able to pick up regular radio broadcasts from great distances at night.

    And then there's another stupid statement: "... we generally assume the lower atmosphere (Below about 100 km) to be electrically neutral, with the exception of lightning strikes. " We who?!? Scientists have long known about what's called the "atmosphere gradient." Even on a clear, sunny day, you can easily measure it - I've done it myself. All you need is a high-impedance voltmeter and a tall tower with an ungrounded antenna (or a balloon attached to wire) and you'll measure hundreds and even thousands of volts at just a few hundred feet. And again, that's on ANY day even without any adverse weather weather activity within a hundred miles.

    If your looking for a site to back up your silly claims, you'll have to do much better than that.
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  7. valich Registered Senior Member

    If you've been reading all the posts, you will have read there is electromagnetic activity in tornados - much less in hurricanes - but not the cause of either. This is due to storm activity.

    Could you please cite your NASA news release. I'd really like to read it. Thanks.

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