Human Shields. Is it OK to Kill them?

fedr808: "99% of your strikes are directed AT civilians."

Also reported: Too stupid a thing to say on Sciforums.

 

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Hype, it's easy knowledge, Sunnis vs Shiites, terrorist attacks? It wasn't racial at all

 

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What part of that was offensive?

 

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It`s in regard to the gene pool... and the sullying thereof.

 

Yes, and while you are waiting on Fedr, I would suggest you look at the other half of the Oil for Food scandal, Saddam, and the Iraqi Government, they received the moneys and food, they were the ones who allocated the moneys, first into Saddams pocket's, then into his minions pockets, then to the Military, and finally to the people.

Saddam was the one who let the Iraqi children die to enrich Himself and Rebuild His Military on the bodies of the innocent Children of Iraq.

Saddam controlled all the aid that entered Iraq, it had to go through His hands because it was set up that way, Saddam didn't allow the U.N. to distribute the Aid.

 

fedr808: "What part of that was offensive?"

Will a fucking mod please straighten 2334013 him out? Kleines Eichmanns Überall.

 

The Oil For Food scandal, much of which involved US associated corporations dealing with a former US installed strongman and ally, did not involve the majority of the damage done by the sanctions.

It was begun in bureaucratic, US mediated response to the "humanitarian crisis" (tens of thousands of dead children, in a fairly modern and Westernized country) created by the US enforced and mediated sanctions, a crisis already in full disaster mode before Oil For Food was established.

The sanctions were intended to create misery among the Iraqi people, thereby destabilizing the no longer acceptable current strongman ruling Iraq.

It was, in other words, a typical case of "human shielding" by the evil enemy, as that term is normally employed.

 

What's a rummy handshake between friends, anyway.

 

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Then why did Bill Clinton do this?

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The U.S. implimented the program.

Really? and what about this?

Peter van Walsum, the now-retired Ambassador of the Netherlands to the United Nations and chairman of the Iraq sanctions committee from 1999 to 2000, speculated in a recent book that Iraq deliberately divided the Security Council by awarding contracts to France, Russia, and China but not to the United Kingdom and the United States. He also stated he encountered a number of cases in which he felt the lack of Iraqi cooperation was designed to exacerbate the suffering of its own people. He also claimed that it was his opinion that the sanctions were not an effective deterrent.

Until 2001, the money for the Oil-for-Food Programme transited through the BNP Paribas bank, whose main private share-holder is Iraqi-born Nadhmi Auchi, a man estimated to be worth about $1 billion according to Forbes, and ranks 13th in Britain according to The Guardian. Auchi received a 15-month suspended sentence for his involvement in the Elf scandal, which has been qualified by the British newspaper as "the biggest fraud inquiry in Europe since the Second World War. Elf became a private bank for its executives who spent £200 million on political favours, mistresses, jewellery, fine art, villas and apartments".[6] Elf, an oil company, merged with TotalFina to become Total S.A. in 2003.
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That doesn't look like a major U.s. invlouvement, the major players in the scandal were France, Russia, and China,

Yes and the;

al Mada list
One of the earliest allegations of wrongdoing in the programme surfaced on 25 January 2004, when al Mada, a daily newspaper in Iraq, published a list of individuals and organizations alleged to have received oil sales contracts via the UN's Oil-for-Food Programme. The list came from over 15,000 documents which were reportedly found in the state-owned Iraqi oil corporation, which had close links to the Iraqi Oil Ministry.

Named in the list of beneficiaries were British MP George Galloway and his charity, the Mariam Fund; former French Interior Minister Charles Pasqua; and Shaker al-Kaffaji, an Iraqi-American businessman. India's foreign minister was removed from office because of his role in the scandal. Many prominent Russian firms and individuals were also included on the al Mada list. Even the Russian Orthodox Church was supposedly involved in illegal oil trading. The former assistant to the Vatican secretary of state, Reverend Jean-Marie Benjamin, is said to have received rights to sell 4.5 million barrels (720,000 m3). George Galloway subsequently won two libel actions against the Christian Science Monitor and Daily Telegraph, which reported the allegations.[6][7]

The president of Oilexco Ltd, Arthur Millholland, whose name also appeared on the al Mada list, denied any wrongdoing, but confirms the charges that illegal surcharges were being paid to the Iraqi government by contractors. [8] However, the al Mada list does not discuss bribes paid to Iraq - it discusses bribes paid to individuals so that they would support Iraq. Few deny that in Iraq, like in many third-world countries, bribes and kickbacks were regularly paid to the leadership in order to get contracts, but some suggest that kickbacks would normally not occur in such countries when a UN-run programme was involved.


3.^ "Security Council Resolution 712(1991)" (PDF). 19 September 1991. http://www.undemocracy.com/S-RES-712(1991).pdf.
6.^ The Guardian on Nadhmi Auchi (see also Clearstream scandal)
7.^ a b c Pete Earley, "Comrade J: The Untold Secrets of Russia's Master Spy in America After the End of the Cold War", Penguin Books, 2007, ISBN 978-0-399-15439-3, pages 210-223.

Yes, iceaura, can you provide citation to refute this.

 

civilian communication networks are military targets?

 

Guess what?, yes they are.

 

and the power and water grids as well? how is the civilian communication networks a military target though why I'm asking someone who has shown no real understanding of international law beats me.




everything i have read and seen requires proof that it is being put to the war effort to legit target.

 

pj, power grids serve the military just as well as the civilians, and yes water resources, again are usable by the military, as well as the civilians, and please cite your supposed international law? Chapter and Verse.

Again your youth leaves you with a severely truncated idealistic personal view of the world.

You have time and again cherry picked only the parts of Law, that you think support your truncated views, with out reading the rest of Paragraph, Section, sub section ,line and sentence, the whole body of the law.

The Law all of the Law, not just what you cherry pick as useful to support your parochial view of right and wrong.

Now as to someone who has no understanding of International Law and Treaty, you have proven that time and again, with you lack of citation and site reference, and the fact that you cherry pick and fail to include the proviso, exceptions, and exclusion that are part of the International Treaty that make up the body of law.