The intro is very informative of the interview. No, it didn't. Go back and review the behavior of the Republican Party and its core electoral base in the six months after Obama's election. As you yourself recognize: Hold that thought. That's where you make contact with reality. And capitalize the R, for mental clarity. I don't know about Billy - he had other priorities - but I did, sure. And it didn't take any special insight - just looking around, remembering from 12 to noon, discussing the obvious with the people who have been discussing the obvious (and making consistently accurate predictions, delivering cogent and urgent warnings, etc) for thirty, forty years. For example, I posted a link to an essay by Molly Ivins (one of the heavyweights in my crowd, a syndicated journalist of undeniable intelligence, ability, integrity, reputation, and charm, who of course never got a pundit desk in the big money venues) about Hillary Clinton, written in 2006 from the perspective of the previous twenty years. Here it is again: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/20/ivins.hillary/ You don't know who you're talking to, or talking about. You have swallowed the Fox frame whole and without awareness. How did that happen? He talks about himself and his interview guest, as liberals - right now, today. He says that explicitly. I agree with him. Your reflexive reduction of all analysis to namecalling is a fieldmark of the wingnut Right and a central pillar of its framing of all issues. So is the exclamation point, immediately after chastising other people for "screaming". You got that frame from the same media operation that feeds Sean Hannity, Joe Scarborough, Brit Hume, Breitbart - you talk like them, you think like they think. And you call that "independent". You are correct in that the majority of the American voting public is left libertarian, on the standard scales in which those words have meaning. I have posted that observation dozens of times on this forum. It's a standard, agreed, basic, fact of the situation among people like me. What you just saw, in the last election, was your way. One feature of your way is that people like me were once again more or less completely excluded from the major media and the public political discussion , just as you recommend. You seem to think it didn't work. I agree. I don't think it will work next time, either. I think "validating" and "listening" and "finding common ground" with the modern Republican Party, its core voting base, and especially its media propaganda efforts, as the Clintons made a career of doing, as you and Rahm Emanuel and Dick Morris (in Ivins's essay) recommend, has been a serious mistake all along.