How many SOULS can God create ?

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  1. Ted Grant II Registered Senior Member

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    God, of course, could create any number of souls.

    Suppose he has already created, say, 200 billion souls, well by tomorrow morning, he will have created some more. Because he has infinite power and infinite resources at his command and plenty of time, he could create an infinite number of souls.

    However, the world is finite. No matter how many souls are actually planted in the world, that number will always be finite. A finite number is always a lot smaller than an infinite number. In fact, an infinite number is infinitely bigger than any finite number.

    It follows immediately that an infinite number of souls will never get the chance to go to Heaven.

    Many people think the holocaust was bad and malaria is worse, but this is infinitely worse.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The solution to your apparent dilemma is that, no matter how many souls are produced, there is no reason why every one of them wouldn't go to heaven.
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I've always wondered how many chucks could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Anyone know?
     
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  7. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    chuck1
    tʃʌk/
    informal
    verb
    1. 1.
      throw (something) carelessly or casually.
      "someone chucked a brick through the window"
      synonyms:throw, toss, fling, hurl, pitch, cast, lob, launch, flip, catapult, shy, dash, project, propel, send, bowl;More

    2. 2.
      end a relationship with (a partner).
      "Mary chucked him for another guy"
      synonyms:leave, throw over, drop, finish with, stop going out with, break off one's relationship with, desert, abandon, leave high and dry

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      2.2 makes me wonder what type of wood is being required to be chucked


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  8. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    Have you thought about souls being present on other worlds?

    I guess it still might mean a finite number accommodated

    Another guess is excess souls go straight to heaven without out going past Earth

    Which sort of leaves out the prospect of the devil gaining access to them

    Do sperm and ova get ½ a soul each?

    Because that's a hell of a lot of ½ soul wastage

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  9. Ted Grant II Registered Senior Member

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    My point is not about the ones actually produced, it's about the infinite number of ones that will never be produced because the world is finite.
     
  10. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    If they're never created, why exactly is it a problem that they don't get to go to heaven?
     
  11. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    About as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
    Or zero if they can't.

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  12. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    Since my position, and I am suspecting many others, is souls do not exist

    Holding that view - souls do not exist - leads me to be concerned

    that you are concerned about the production of a infinite number of non existent souls

    ie

    they don't exist in the first place

    so there is no need to be concerned about them not being produced

    I need a coffee

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  13. Ted Grant II Registered Senior Member

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    If God had created an infinite world, something well within his capabilities, then he could have planted an infinite number of souls in the world, all in one go.
    All of those potential souls never had a chance to experience the joy of Heaven.
    He didn't do it.
    He chose a finite number - the lucky ones.
    All the others got no chance.
    It's a form of contraception by God, which, as we all know, is an anathema to the Holy Church.
     
  14. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    You have finite memory, even God. If God tried counting to infinity he would run out of numbers and eternity would end.
     
  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    What does a finite world have to do with Heaven? Why wouldn't there be room for an infinite number of souls in Heaven?
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Why would that be the thing God couldn't do?

    I guess that means Mathematics is the real God and god is only a demi-god?

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  17. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Because God must have a memory.
     
  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You have a surprisingly modest view of what a omnipotent God might be able to do.
     
  19. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    omnipotent
    ɒmˈnɪpət(ə)nt/
    adjective
    1. (of a deity) having unlimited power
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    Damn Google wrong again

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  20. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, have a good memory.
     
  21. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    there
    fixed it for you
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Heh. That's what I get for editing words into the middle of a sentence.
     
  23. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    c'est la vie?
     

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