How high B.P. can be lowered without medicines?

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  1. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    so would me stabing you in the heart

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    In fact that would not only drop the total volume but also drop your CO to zero

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  3. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    i do have high blood presure and yes i have been told to cut down a lot on caffine, and not only coffee but pepsi aswell, seeing that i drink about 6 cans a day!
     
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  5. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Option 1.
    Lose weight. Excercise more. Restrict salt intake.

    Option 2
    Pills

    I know that option 1 is the sensible choice, but
    I'm in the option 2 bracket.
     
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  7. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Viagra will do the same thing and the histamic side effect could come in handy. BTW, obviously many antihistamines work by vasoconstriction so they will increase BP.
    Good goddess, six cans of cola contain as much caffeine as six cups of coffee if it's not professionally brewed. Dr. Pepper, Mountain Dew, and a number of newer soft drinks are also deliberately spiked with caffeine.
    Losing weight is difficult and slow, and it often unmasks devastating emotional problems for which food is a palliative. Furthermore, people who go on crash diets, especially more than once in a lifetime, run the risk of their metabolism dropping into permanent famine adaptation. When the diet is over they find that their bodies have become so efficient both at extracting calories from food and at not wasting them, that their maintenance diet is 500 calories lower than ours. This makes it doubly hard for them to keep the weight off. You should never try to lose more than about one pound per month.

    An exercise program is somewhat easier both to launch and to keep going, and it is likely to release endorphins that provide modest relief from emotional problems. In addition it can reshape the body, augmenting the vanity effect of weight loss.

    Reducing salt intake isn't so difficult, unless your diet is primarily fast food and convenience food, in which case you probably don't care about your health anyway and you wouldn't be reading this thread.

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    I was accustomed to the taste of too much salt, but my wife doesn't use a lot of it in her cooking and I found that soon my taste adapted and I stopped noticing the absence at all.
    Just take one from Option 1 and try a little more physical activity. Not going to a gym, just walking more and stuff like that. You'll probably find that you have more energy, so it won't even take away any of your time. And it will probably improve your mood.
     
  8. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    FR its very danorious to sugest self medicating with a vasodilator to reduce BP
     
  9. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    what is a vasodilator
     
  10. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    im not sure if its spelled right but i cant find it in the spell checker

    Anyway i will define it for you

    Its a chemical that causes your perifery vascular system to open up so more blood flows to the skin and other exstremities. Heprin is an example of a drug that does this
     
  11. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    i see now!

    my husband takes meds for hgh blood pressure because he had a stroke a few years back! and he turned his life around!
     
  12. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    asprin and worfrin are other commonly perscribed drugs that have the same effects. In the public domain they are refered to as "blood thiners" but as far as im aware on a pharmicological level what they really do is open the blood vessels. Beta blockers on the other hand supress the vasoconstritive effects of adrenilin and nor-adrenilin

    At least i HOPE this infomation is corect, i havent done my pharmicology unit yet
     
  13. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    A vasodilator relaxes the muscles in the blood vessels, allowing them to expand. The word is modern scientific Latin, from vas, meaning a vessel. The opposite is a vasoconstrictor, of which caffeine is one we all know best although we don't realize it. This is why pain medication often contains caffeine. Constricting blood vessels reduces blood flow, and reducing blood flow to nerve endings impairs their ability to send signals to the brain.

    Vasodilation provides symptomatic relief from high blood pressure but may not correct the underlying cause, which may be a nutritional error such as excess salt or insufficient water, a physiological peculiarity such as caffeine hypersensitivity, or a more serious problem such as atherosclerosis (clots building up inside the blood vessels which reduce their cross section). Nonetheless symptomatic relief is urgent because it can stave off death long enough to give the patient an opportunity to work on the other problems. Regardless of the underlying cause of hypertension (high blood pressure), it puts stress on the tissues of the cardiovascular system, which can break and cause death without warning.
    I don't know anything about warfarin (not "worfrin," that is Klingon medicine

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    ) but that statement is not correct about aspirin. Vasodilation can be an indirect effect of aspirin but aspirin is not a direct vasodilator. Aspirin may sometimes stimulate certain processes that result in vasodilation, but it generally inhibits the production of certain biochemicals which cause vasodilation, thereby having the opposite effect. Aspirin cannot be depended on to cause vasodilation.

    Aspirin works to reduce the probability of heart attacks and strokes because it truly is a blood thinner. It reduces the count of platelets in the blood, and platelets cause clotting, which is the prime mechanism in the blockage of arteries. This is unrelated to blood pressure.
     
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  14. draqon Banned Banned

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    Option 3. heaven
     
  15. kmguru Staff Member

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    Arginine and Niacin can be used as vasodilators that is safe to use. Garlic is supposed to be a peripheral vasodilator...
     
  16. draqon Banned Banned

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    I heard chocolate lowers blood pressure...however when I eat chocolate my pressure seems to rise...
     
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  18. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Cocoa solids contain caffeine. Pure cocoa butter, from which white chocolate is made, has none.
     
  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    What makes up white chocolate is cocoa butter, milk solids, sugar and vanilla. Check the labels because some lesser brands forgo the cocoa butter at the expense of taste. According to the FDA if the white chocolate does not contain cocoa butter it cannot legally be called chocolate.

    While the cocoa butter technically makes white chocolate chocolate, this butter is the by product of the process that makes the chocolate powder. It is the chocolate powder that we all enjoy and love.
     
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