How do you feel about people who kill animals for the sheer fun of it?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Saven, May 3, 2009.

  1. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I see the difference, but so what? Do whatever suits you.
     
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  3. Saven Registered Member

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    Because it's psychotic. Psychotic is bad.

    I know, it's hard.
     
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  7. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    Bleah! you should scale, head and gut them before you kiss them. Also its really a good idea in populated areas, which is everywhere, to cook them first to avoid parasites.
     
  8. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    Not really. One has more excuses around it. I'm not sure the prey really gets the difference either.

    How is it different?
     
  9. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    Thaat's nice for your theory, but it totally fails to track with my direct experience.

    I don't hunt for fun so I can't speak to that.

    But hunting for real definately kicked in some instincts, though I didn't get that from gun hunting, I suppose some might. I can tell you that running down your prey and killing it with your hands is not "pretend" nor is it based on "rationalization." Its definately very intense and creates a lot of social bonding. Its also quickly obvious there are hunters and there are gatherers.

    As I said earlier, I'm not really into hunting. Haven't done it in 20 odd years. But just because you can't imagine hunting, that doesn't mean there is the least thing forced or ingenuine in those who do. Hunting is definately a trait in many humans, especially males. Its no different in us than how it plays out in chimps. Usually there is a small group of hunters and just one or two that will make a kill.

    There's really no need to be jealous though. I'm sure roots are tasty too.

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  10. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    That's fine.

    Why struggle with them? Veggies are fun and tasty. I'm partial to Indian and Chinese, but mediterranian is good to.


    How do you propose to keep the deer herds in check?

    No doubt, but a seperate issue.
     
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  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    well i guess a mod logged me off again. is tiaSSa around?:scratchin:

    back to the subject:

    so when you kill a bug are you psychotic? if a bug crawled up your arm and you smash it with your hand?
     
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  13. justwonderingjoe Gosh,the weather is nice today Registered Senior Member

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    Here's the thing, have you ever killed an animal for the sheer pleasure of it?
    How did it make you feel? It felt like shit to me and I thought I was going to a burning hell for eternity, after my cousin and I crept up to a blue jay sitting on a post, and bam, he shot it with his pellet gun. I was about 9 and a real tom boy at the time.
    Any way, after that bird dropped, we both looked at each other and wanted to puke.
    Up until the point that he killed it, was all about sneaking quietly and stalking the bird. That was the fun part. But after he actually killed it, it was such an obviously CLEAR MISTAKE.
     
  14. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Do ants count?
     
  15. justwonderingjoe Gosh,the weather is nice today Registered Senior Member

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    Actually , when I was a kid I remember laying on my bedroom floor and finding an ant trail. I started systematically squashing them, finding pleasure in killing them. I started looking closely at them and noticed some were squirming. After that I felt bad and stopped. :shrug:
     
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  16. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Killing fulfills a need for ego
     
  17. Saven Registered Member

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    lol @ that. Those who have to kill other things to feel better about themselves have got WAY bigger problems than just their ego. The ones who do that prolly have *no* ego. That's why they need to hurt others. It helps them feel better about their position in life.

    Talk about sad.

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  18. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I was huntin by myself an shot a fox squrrell... i picked up the dead squrrell an looked at it... an i thout... why am i doin this... i dont have to do this... i was 12 year old an i never went squrrell or rabbit huntin agan.!!!
     
  19. Roman Banned Banned

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    I've never understood this claim. It's only foundation is that people who are abused by their parents tend to be bullies themselves. And by bully, I mean like this:

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    Which really only touches on the surface of ways to make other people feel like shit.
     
  20. ili Registered Member

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    The animals die quickly so it is actually more humane than if they died due to a protracted illness or old age.
     
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  23. MysteriousStranger Banned Banned

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    I agree with this.

    If an action's good consequences out-weigh the bad then it's perfectly fine to do it.

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    Good consequences:

    You have fun

    Bad consequences:

    You are punished (if it is illegal to kill said animal)
    You are looked down upon by people who see it as "wrong"

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    If it is legal to kill an animal you can avoid the first negative consequence. If you do it privately you can avoid the second. If you don't care about people looking down upon you then you wouldn't even view that as a bad consequence in the first place.

    "An animal dies" isn't neccessarily a good or bad consequence.
     

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