O Ye Of Infinite Faith - So it truly comes down to faith & faith alone. There is no need for atheists to attempt to prove gods do not exist. I did not say the quran is like the other religions when they say gods come down earth for women. I did not say it's the same as proving god doesn't exist. My mind is settled. I & others have been extremely clear about proving a claim.
yeah!Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! did you? stop making unsupported claims. even stranger doesn't like it when you do that.
You think you see the fallacy in other myths yet you can't see it in your myth. “ Originally Posted by StrangerInAStrangeLa The number of people believing something is an insignificant factor in the odds of it being right. ” Yes. Really.
what's wrong with faith? what is faith based upon? how does it originate? what is used for its composition other than logic? emotions? aren't emotions sophisticated logic? spirituality? so theists are stupid for having faith based on spirituality which separates them from robots? what is your notion of "faith?" yup, they can believe whatever they want.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! just as long as they don't relate themselves to logicPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! strangly enough, you did not, my mistake, you just asked me to prove it..but: can you enlighten me so i can join this group?
-=- Faith is believing things without evidence & persisting in beliefs despite contradicting evidence. Faith is not based on logic. Emotions are not logic. You continually demonstrate you know nothing of logic. Atheists do not believe in gods thus they have no god belief which needs to be proven.
“ Originally Posted by StrangerInAStrangeLa The number of people believing something is an insignificant factor in the odds of it being right. ” Yes. Really. That would be better than persisting in a fallacy.
belief exists, right? what is it based on? what makes a person believe? some people don't believe in dinosaurs and so they have no dinosaur belief which needs to be proven. would it be better to believe only you instead of a fallacy. or anyones view is better than believing in a fallacy? let me save you replying to that. if any one's word is better than a fallacy then what when many of them say the same word, which conflicts with your word? who should i follow then? if only your word is better than a fallacy then why you? what makes you special? after you list what makes you special and worthy of listening to, i'll go search for people with the same qualifications, and take their word, which will happen to be opposite to your word. then which word should i take? now, dear, do you know why numbers count?
A magician. Satellites don't exist. He did, he told a magician who then told me. I believed him, of course, because he was a magician. Magic is the only reality.
Scifes, No I am talking about every book that claims to know the only path, to claim to be the words of god(s) I want to talk about the contradicitons between your religious text and reality as we now understand it. You want to talk about god because of the escape clause. What does your religion say about dinosaurs, what does it say about the fossil records ? Why did it not forsee and tell of this ? How do you, knowing of these false tales and a belief in a god that is based on these false tales continue to believe in the god. Your answer, it's better to be delusional and happy. That's fine, just don't tell me you know god exists and then have this as an answer. No, it doesn't solve the problem of death, neither does religion. Either way we have to face it someday. So let's see, you realize the texts contradict reality and therefore are not true but choose to believe they are true even though it doesn't fit with reality and then tell me that you have deeply analyzed it all and your religion comes out on top. Like I said, youv'e chosen to be delusional. And American Idol is a number one show. Comedy. It's ok Scifes, you and your religion have been cornered all you have left is god, and I can't prove god does not exist. There is your escape. You can't proven something doesn't exist can you. Still waiting.
ok. prove that you mean what you say. show me the crap in the quran. go ahead. i don't mind talking about anything. i don't know, i'll have to research. but even if it says nothing, then what? and if it says something, THEN what? very easy for you to ask for evidence, yet you do nothing with it when it's presented. it didn't forsee michael jackson having a cardiac problem. so my religion has to be wrong. it also didn't forsee ballistic missiles and solar cells, that's it. it has to be wrong. why don't you stick to your original argument, whatever that be. it has to be better than what your saying now. :wtf:are you talking about? what false tales? what tales? am i missing something here? i actually have no answer, as i don't understand the question. man you can predict everything. WHAT?? but you just SAID THAT!! THAT's what YOU answered when i asked why was religion invented..and THAT'S what you said religion and the concept of gos is for.. i aM LoSIng mY mInD!! where the FUDGE did i say that!!?? um, am i being too serious with this? am i putting a lot of hope on all this? is this a joke or a story or what exactly? do you have a clear mage of what i, you, we say? ...deep breath... i don't like it, but can you say it's not show number one? huh? NOT funny..go play believe somewhere else. i've been trying for sometime.. and upon reading this taunt of yours for the tenth time it sparked in my brain, here's something i can prove doesn't exist.: "Proof of the nonexistence of something can be proven not to exist" and so, scifes, in the first time in the history of human philosophy, has proven a negative.. jappl..: IN YOUR FACE!! hope you enjoyed your wait while it lasted. now, after a lot of sensless and purposeless goading and taunting, i've proved something doesn't exist. i've fulfilled your request. now, you fulfill mine: prove god doesn't exist
How can something starting from NOTHING ( zero ) create anything at all let alone all this huge universe and beyond ???!!!!.