How did God come to be?

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  1. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    We can determine that based only on our life forms, our technology & our present knowledge.
    IOW, we cannot determine it.
     
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  3. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    When a daddy god loves a mortal this much :shake: he turns into a bull and rapes her and that's how little gods come to be!
     
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  5. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    LOL
    Most god myths have them coming down to screw irresistible mortal women.
     
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  7. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    crazy huh?

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  8. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    No. Insane.
     
  9. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    That includes the Christian Holy Babble, of course. I don't know if it applies to the Koran.
     
  10. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    imagination, do you lack it? that's all what i'm asking.

    if tooth fairies existed, proof would be that poor children will get money for their teeth like rich ones, a simple process of imagining an action and suggesting a reaction.

    in a world where pink flying elephants exist, human transportation would be greatly different than how it is today, also, assuming they were the only flying creatures of such size, they would be extremly expensive and valuble.

    do any of these exist?



    yes i might, it makes perfect sense.
    although i managed without it.
    and no need to hang to it preciously, i'm sure many others will come along..



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    again??!
    what do you know of those people?

    death then made more sense than now, it was more accepted too.
    this is a very good argument, but i think you're talking about the bible.

    we go back..
    what do you know of these "all religions"?

    you should've stuck to "the idea of god" which you base on a false understanding of a religion, either you religion or understanding is false.

    stop fooling yourself

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    he he he.
    how are people before not blamed for fearing death and inventing religion, but people of today are not excused? are you saying that gained knowledge and science solves the problem of death?

    sigh
    apparently we're different than stone age men because we have more science, we shouldn't give in to what they gave in to, we're evolved and more intelligent, and it's about time we started acting like such, and so, we accept our mortality, because we are able to.

    well, no, we never will be able to.

    never.

    it's like a kid who's mother died when he became 18 and he doesn't want to cry because he wants to be a "man"..

    a man is never too old to cry, and humans are never too knowledgeable to accept death.

    they can know all they want about it, it's causes, how it works, reasons and causes.

    but it'll never change the realization, that people die.

    if religion is as you claim a cure for that, then it's good for this time as it ever was.

    ignorance is a bliss, don't you agree?


    yes you can ask.
    but no if you want it to refute it, not examine it.




    yup, i heard pigeons sometime close their eyes when they see a cat nearby, because it makes the cat disappear.

    i laughed a lot that day. because i don't care for the pigeon.


     
  11. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    how is that different from crazy?
    you mean holy bible. typo.

    and no, i'm happy to say it does not apply to the quran.
     
  12. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Don't attempt to tell me what I mean. I said babble because I meant babble, I meant babble because that's what it is.

    Can you prove it doesn't apply to the Koran?
     
  13. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    but then i'd have to call you babble too.

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    and i don't want to do that, there's something called respect.

    maybe i can call you uncle babble:scratchin:


    loooool

    and how do you propose i do that?

    i know the quran, but how i can prove to you it does NOT say that?

    should i write all it's verses and translate and explain them and search for what you said in them and show you that it doesn't exist in any of them (the verses)?
     
  14. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    If you're happy being ignorant, why must you attempt to make others ignorant?

    I heard pigeons do not do that.

    The number of people believing something is an insignificant factor in the odds of it being right.



    "Originally Posted by scifes i'll say one thing for you, if you ever made your own reality, make it a happy one.
    at least theists are living in a happy delusion, what good is friggin reality if it doesn't make your life better? ”




    That makes no sense. Not surprising tho since you stopped thinking.
     
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  15. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I do not respect babble, specially when it includes such cruelty.
    You seem to be confusing a book or something someone says with a person.
    You want me to respect babble while you don't respect people.

    Asking you to prove that makes more sense than you asking us to prove there are no gods.
     
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  16. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    ??
    oh i don't think you as a person are babble, only what you say is babble. feel better?

    or if what you say is written in a book, that book would be babble.

    or, think of the most precious book you ever read and hold very dear and respect..that's babble, less offended now?

    nice try, but no, the quran is finite, and defined, i was going to write a long explanation, but doing something is easier than explaining it, so here goes:

    AWESOME, thanks stranger, i found a brilliant site, you enter a word and it searches the quran, the search term can be arabic or english, and the results can be translated to english to, here are the results for searching "wife"..
    http://www.holyquran.net/cgi-bin/qs...%C8%C9&sc=1&sv=1&ec=114&ev=7&ae=&mw=p&alef=ON

    answered your question? proved the nonexistance of something you asked of me?

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    now's your turn, prove god doesn't exist, in case no evidence already proves he exists.
     
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  17. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    O Ye of Infinite Faith.
    You proved nothing. Your attempt, if it was an attempt, is unrelated to the question.
    It will never be my turn to prove gods don't exist. You can't or won't understand you are making a claim thus it is your responsibility to prove your claim.
     
  18. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    really?

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    and i should stop posting, huh?

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    no it makes sense.
    i think you're deluding yourself, and what i'm saying is reality.
    you think i'm dekluding myself, and what you're sayin is rea;ity.

    so if we're both wrong or we're both right, and reality is subjective, then make it a happy one. and that's what i said.

    on the other hand, i kept the if, because reality could be objective, so it doesn't validate what i say when i try to prove it so.

    clear?
     
  19. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    No problem. I climbed Mount Olympus only to find Zeus was not there.
     
  20. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Reality is not subjective. Perception is.

    Attempting to decipher your code : Your belief is based on whether it makes you happy?
     
  21. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    YESSIR!!
    you are being a child who doesn't play fair.

    i said, don't be atheist because you can't be sure god doesn't exist

    you said, the quran is like the other religions when they say gods come down earth for women.

    i said it is not.

    you said prove it.

    i said it would be too troublesome.

    you said it's the same as proving god doesn't exist.

    i proved in the quran god has no wife.

    then you said

    :wtf:

    make up your mind, who has to prove a claim?

    or does it always has to be me?:bawl:
     
  22. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Did you see the trap door under that huge immovable boulder?
     
  23. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    HA who told you it was mount olympus?

    who told you you can reach him from any mountain? is that your understanding of "high in the sky"? ever heard of satellites?

    and who told you zeus is a god?
    humph, and what is reality other than perception?

    no. if reaching an objective understanding of reality fails, then you'll have to make go with a subjective one, it's an "if all else fails" choice...in the case that nothing is objective.
     

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