House On Fire?

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  1. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Firstly, you must believe the unbelievable.
    Secondly, you must accept a written work as true even when it contradicts itself.
     
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  3. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    if that forms your foundation for theism, small wonder that you are now an atheist
     
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  5. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    I was born an atheist (like everyone is). The religous programming didn't take.
     
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    careful - you might sway me with that programming of yours

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  8. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not a cult member. It's the xians that go door to door looking for recruits.
     
  9. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    you prefer different tactics?

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  10. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    I have this decal on my door
    http://www.rof.com/No_Preaching_Zone_s/27.htm

    Yet it still seems that everybody except the mormons feels themselves free to go ahead and ring the doorbell. I always ask if they saw the decal(it's at eyelevel, 6" from the doorbell) and the blankeyed xians say
    " I didn't think you meant that"
    "Surely you want to know jesus"
    After physically removing one young man from my property his cult camped out at the end of my driveway to "pray for me". They only left after I reported the little handouts and prayer booklets that they would place in my mailbox to the postmaster.
    The tatics that I would prefer is that xians,
    Act in a rational manner!

    Such a simple thing. You've had 2,000 years to practice and you still can't get it right.:shrug:
     
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  11. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    so are you saying that if rational theists cannot be encountered on your front door they cannot be encountered anywhere?

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  12. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Careful - you might sway and fall over from that programming of yours.
     
  13. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    uuuuh - must ..... somehow -uuuuh - resist .... the programming ......nnngggghh of ..... supe uuuuhhhh



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  14. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Must... resist... mindless...ugghhh... babble of .... LG!
     
  15. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, absolutely yes. The very belief system of a theist rules out rational thought. And if they act, following the rules of that system, then they are acting irrationally. I hope that I have made my point clear? Unless you can come up with a definition for the word/s 'logic' & 'rational thought' that includes believing in the supernatural? If you can then please post it. Until then I'll just note that it must be nice living a life completely unburdened by reality.
     
  16. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Theist have weekly meetings, all sorts of study aids, An inerrrant guide book that is full of contradictions, a support system that includes their own brainwashing summer camps, their own TV channels! But an atheist who slips their bonds is programmed?
    Oh logic, I feel like letting go:bugeye:
     
  17. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    How can you make such a judgement without the proper training in theistic matters? Are you a trained theologian? No? Then there is no reason for you not to believe in all matter of gods and amazing supernatural stuff.

    LG can explain.
     
  18. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    I see. Attempting to use logic with LG. That was your first mistake...
     
  19. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Well I was trained as an engineer and I spent 30 years in the aerospace industry removing extraneous B.S. from real world problems be of more value than training in super oops theistic matters?
    The reason not to believe in supernatural stuff is (pay attention LG

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    ) is that it is not rational.
     
  20. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    the actual lyric is Oh darkness I,,
    I don't know if using logic is ever a mistake. Although it is useless with a theist such as LG
     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    No you haven't.
    For a start, ALL systems of knowledge begin with belief (or inductive knowledge) and not all systems of theistic disciplines (in fact i would say hardly any of them) maintain that belief is the end in itself.

    thus it's not clear why you say that if you follow the rules of that system it is irrational
     
  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    lol
    I see, so your programming can beat up my programming, eh?
     
  23. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    anyone who says that atheism doesn't have an ideology to push is clearly out to lunch
    http://richarddawkins.net/article,1471,The-Out-Campaign,Richard-Dawkins
     

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