Homosexuality - Nature or Nurture?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Cellar_Door, Jul 10, 2009.

  1. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    according to who ?

    what your doing is applying social observations by outsiders(third person perspective non experiencer) to a complex biochemical situation where emotions and biochemistry nurture and nature all mix together.


    your application is just zeal nothing more.
    you do not engage on topics which clearly suggests you have not done your own research on the matter.
    where as i have and for some decades.

    there is plenty of time left in your life to be an ignorant stick in th emud if you choose to be... but !
    why condemn yourself to a life of ignorance just because some sexually repressed religious extremist tells you to ?

    are you incapable of doing your own study and making up your own mind ?
    did they neglect to teach you "how" to learn ?
     
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  3. Arch_Rival Registered Senior Member

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    Actually the idea that happenings in the womb having some influence on sexual orientation has been shown somewhat. Google "Finger-length ratios and sexual orientation". There's an article published in Nature.
     
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  5. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    What's wrong with a nice boyfriend, nice children, and true family happiness?

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  7. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    he is constructing a good Vs evil debate
    red flag religo extremist ideology.

    you dont argue witha wild animal.

    you either kill it or avoid it.


    such is the mental construction of people raised by religious extremists.
    it takes considerable resources and time with them in captivity to be able to re construct their minds into thinking caring empathic human beings.
    some are too far gone.
    probably could rebuild about 30 to 40% i guess.
    but... they would have to be locked up for a while.
     
  8. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Let's hope you don't. He would be at risk of being corrupted by your entrenched knee-jerk reactions that you try to pass off as a form of thinking.
    Guess what. I want my son to be happy and to achieve things that are important to him. If that were to mean living the life of a homosexual then that would be fine, if that is what made him happy. It seems from your response that you are more interested (indeed only interested) in your own happiness and sense of ease. You view a son as an extension of yourself who exists to please you through his actions, not as an independent person.
    If you were not obviously so young and immature this could be viewed as a serious mental aberration.
    I wish you well on your path to adulthood.
     
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  9. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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  10. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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  11. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    You are unlikely to have sex, period.

    No. You want to work on the problem of having a son in the first place. Who would ever want you, with that attitude?

    If any son of yours grew up to be like you, I don't think that any "nice" woman would want to be associated with him.

    I think the offspring of one such as you are more likely to be trouble-makers and high-school dropouts.

    Yeah, I bet some punk like you is a born and bred wife-beater. If you want to see what "family happiness" ends up being for people like you, stop by the local battered women's shelter, and take a gander.

    When you're raising your offspring, making sex a preoccupation for them is the worst thing you can do. Children are not supposed to be having sex. Their time is supposed to be divided about equally between playing, sleeping and studying. When they reach their mid-teens, they are supposed to be dating, not having sex. If they are having sex, it's probably because the parents screwed up.

    And this applies to gay boys. If your son is a gay guy, he should be dating, not having sex. If he is thinking about having sex before he is old enough to run for President, you FAILED. This is how parents are SUPPOSED to think. If they aren't, then that is just WRONG. Hell, if you otherwise did a good job of raising your kids but told them it's okay to have sex before they can apply for social security, they would probably say, "Don't do that. You are scaring me," even if the kid had every intention of getting laid that very night. Parents are supposed to guard their children's chastity with the psychotic vigilance of a rabid wolverine. There is an evolutionary reason for this.
     
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  12. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    I think the parents of most homosexual animals - see
    Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity (Hardcover) - were not strict enough with their children in inculcating heterosexual values. I know for a fact that geese - who are but one example amongst many species in the book of animals that pair homosexually - are very lax parents.

    We had some Canadian geese families around our pond for a few weeks and those gosling simply ran amok.
     
  13. mike47 Banned Banned

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    To Alien Cockroach : Your reply to me is childish at 100%. Also your name says it all....hahahah !.
     
  14. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Homosexuality was, is and will always be an unacceptable behavior . Gays were fighting for the rights to get married; once the laws were approved in some countries, few got married . They lie and
     
  15. Enmos Staff Member

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    What, you got interrupted or something ? Bigot.
     
  16. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Be honest and tell me the truth....are you all queers you people who are calling me names for just giving my honest and sincere opinions according to my inner conscience ?. I think you are .
     
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    Good for you

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  18. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    Actually, my name is based on a fictional alien species known as the Klikiss. They are very interesting. I have considered feeding myself to a Klikiss queen for the purpose of being absorbed into the breedex and eventually becoming its dominant intelligence. I would wipe out all of my enemies, one by one, until I became the One Breedex who rules them all. HAHAHA! It's all a part of my evil plan to take over the galaxy! Can't you see that it is ingenious???

    I can't believe the stupid bullshit that you are spreading. Its ignorance is unfathomable. You are a lying bastard, and you deserve to have your fucking head dunked in acid until it has pickled your fucking synapses.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ge-rates-declined-before-same-sex-unions-leg/

    Marriage rates in Scandinavia were going down long before marriage was available to gay Scandinavians, and I think this information was already available to you. Instead of acknowledging it, though, you continue spreading the lie. You are a bastard.

    Besides, Scandinavians still have the best quality of life in the entire world.
     
  19. mike47 Banned Banned

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    I respect myself and i respect even queers like you....hahaha !. So I will not call you names ar swear at you . 1 : Few gays get married although they fight like hell for the rights to do so . 2 : they lie and say that 10% of the world are gays . This is a propaganda machine and all studies comfirm this is a piece of crap . 3 : Homosexuality is a habit and many gays got out of it with time . 4 : I am a man and I enjoy ladies very much so i can not understand how a man can go with another man . 5 : Keep on calling me names and you are NOT going to change a thing . Thanks .

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  20. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    Oh, we'll change plenty if we oppress and discriminate against you. If people like you get fired from a job every time you bad-mouth the gay people, either you'll shut up, or you won't have as much money to spend on political action committies, whichever comes first. Either one suits me just fine. Welcome to oppression. Population: you. Loser.
     
  21. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    gave me a good few laughs from your post thanks.

    this last comment is quite interesting.

    ever noticed how extremists re work this ?

    note your comment about scaring children.
    NOTE religo nut bars using fear guilt and shame to control their children.

    all the evidence is there.
    all the data is there
    the mystery is basically solved it is just the brain washing of children so they become adults that cant think for themselves that is the ongoing problem.
    times gone by it would have been possible to feed them to the lions of have a genocidal war and wipe them out but these days we cant(easily).

    soo this leaves us with one question RE children.
    why are people allowed to neglect children a proper education ?


     
  22. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Interesting. Are you saying that you approve of discrimination, ridicule, bullying and oppression against people that you don't like?

    I mean, don't get me wrong, I agree with that ...I think we should be allowed to hate and discriminate against anyone and everyone that we don't like.

    Baron Max
     
  23. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    I think we should start hauling you punks off to prison. Homophobic remarks should fall in the same class as verbal sexual harrassment. Pushing, shoving, or otherwise inappropriately touching a gay person of the same sex should be treated the same as if you had grabbed a woman's ass.
     

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