Homosexuality & Anterior hypothalamus

Spurious,

I've heard that semen has lots of zinc in it. Does that mean that if you masturbate too much, it can result in zinc deficiency (and then a weakened immune system)?

 

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Contrary to popular myth, masturbation does not cause blindness. There is some basis, however, to the myth: zinc is required both to transport vitamin A from the liver to the retina and is excreted in relatively high amount in semen. Thus, it is not inconceivable that in zinc-deficient or vitamin A-deficient environments excessive male masturbation could have caused night blindness (in which case sexual intercourse has an equal probability of causing blindness). Given a normal contemporary diet, however, this is extremely unlikely to happen. There is also the more modern issue of staring at a computer screen while watching pornography for extended periods of time as the pupils tend to dilate during arousal.

 

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The above is an interesting bit of information Leopold.

 

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'Masturbation' is a good example of how the exploits of religion --- which forced people to believe in 'god's' words rather than trust their own instincts, and whose ulterior motives were exposed by 'science' --- forced humans to the other extreme, i.e., 'science'. Only the other extreme has finally replaced religion, and it also takes them away from their own nature --- it takes away their capability to experience and see things for themselves rather than refer to what the 'institution' (science or religion) tells us.

Here, the interests of the 'scientific' institution clashes with that of 'religion', because the former wants to 'liberate', popularise and strengthen male-female, non-reproductive, casual sex (i.e. heterosexuality), and freeing masturbation from religious restrictions/ myths is an important step!. So 'science' takes humans away from their instincts in the opposite direction of what religion did. (Edited line): It tells men that all their feelings of pain or spells of memoery loss or weakness is not real. It is all in the mind.

Both religion and science ignore how men actually feel about masturbation. Because the truth is somewhere between what religion and science tell us.

In the case of male-male sexual bonds, science shares the motivation of religion --- to force it out of the mainstream. Only, science wants (and is capable of) a near complete marginalisation (which religion could not do) and its approach is also quite different, sometimes even contradictory with religion. At other times its strikingly similar.

 

U know? If I had a clue about what you were saying, I would take it apart.

 

I've edited the above post, so pl. read it again.

 

well i can tell you this, when it comes to wanking your crank i am definetly the gold medal holder. i have yet to experience any adverse effects such as blindness arms falling off or dieing from aids.

 

as far as this goes they are human,they have rights just like you and me
i am not a homosexual so i cannot really discuss it

 

O.K., O.K., we know you're not homosexual

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And I'm not talking about homosexuals. I'm talking about straight men.

It's not about THEM. It's about US!

 

what about us.

 

It's about naturally straight men.

 

i am not a scientist, so with that in mind
what about naturaly straight men ( i also assume this applies to women )

 

Naturally straight men applies to women!!???

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It's a loooong long story. I'll direct you to this thread. Here !

 

Joking apart, yes the same thing also applies to women, although its social manifestations and what has happened to it after thousands of years of marriage and now heterosexuality is not something I know much about. My work experience is only with men.

But all the indications from the western heterosexual society are that given the overly pro-woman nature of heterosexual societies, straight women are becoming more and more 'free' to explore their same-sex needs/ desires.

 

buddha people are the same every where.
a "western" fag is identical to a "eastern" fag
same goes for hetero
about your link, you really don't expect me to read all that do you? i will refer to it though.
the only difference between male and female is the presence of a y chromosome instead of x (i might have x and y backwards)

 

I agree. 'Basically' human beings are the same everywhere, but the culture/ system that we live in shapes the outer expression of that 'basic' and that makes us different.

There are some key differences between how the term 'homo' is seen by our two cultures (sorry I can't use the word 'fag' as you do, it reflects your own hostility towards the issue, which keeps you from being objective!).

You have a concept of 'sexual orientation' which we know nothing of. But we have a strong concept of 'gender orientation' which you have discarded from your society.

We do have people of 'homo' description in our traditional country. But we don't have any 'heteros' here. If you call someone a 'hetero' he may think you're calling him a 'fag'!

several years ago, in our workshops with young men across our traditional country when we asked them about a sit-com 'queen' character who was a die-hard heterosexual (kept chasing women all the time!) --- they invariably defined him as a 'homo'. When we pointed out that he only chases women, not men, it did not made any difference to their perception of the character as a 'homo'. For them 'homo' meant feminine.

On being asked if two masculine men who have exclusive sex with each other (for men to have sex with men on the sly --- in addition to their sexual relations with women is common in our country), can they be described as 'homo', men would vehemently say 'no'.

I don't really. See they used to be several much smaller threads discussing one main (different) theme each, there was a big plot to get them merged so make them unwieldy (that's why I've disowned them!).

That's what the heterosexual society teaches us. And that's why I call the heterosexual society a queer society.

Men and women are way too different from each other. So much so that if an outer space being watches them, he would think them to be two different species. If women are from venus, men are from mars.

Men and women are not supposed to be raised in or live in common/ mixed-sex/ heterosexual groups. These groups are particularly anti-men given the heterosexual nature of the western society.

 

How do you define a male?

O.K., O.K., understood. You're a heterosexual, macho, real man!

But you are here to discuss 'homosexuality' and we can make educated guesses, can't we?

 

the only reason i used "fag" is because i type with one finger so i try to be breif. i will use gay from now on

expain "gender orientation". gender to me means male or female

you don't have any male-female relationships where you come from?? (hetero means male-female)

without male-female relationships then our society would be shot in the ass

in my opinion this is an example of "clash of cultures"

 

i define male as xx chromosome in humans (it might be xy)

yes i can make an educated guess

 

Our sex identity consists of two parts --- outer and inner sex. Western science acknowledges only one --- the outer sex, but then who said science was perfect. Traditional knowledge (which is a broader concept than science!) acknowledged both of them.

Outer sex refers to our sexual organs, i.e. male, female or both (hermaphrodite).

But apart from and irrespective of our outer sex, we also have an inner-sex, i.e. a sense of being (predominanlty) male or female. This inner sex is what really constitutes our natural gender. This inner-sex (gender) is determined by biology not by culture. Gender can be described as masculine, feminine or both (meterosexual).

The above described natural gender. However, the west (I think its superficial and acknowledges only that which can be seen!) considers gender to be only social (there is also a thing called social gender --- it is how we shape our natural gender into a social identity and is influenced by social mores (where society makes heterosexuality a must for men to be seen as 'men' socially, men will stick a heterosexual label on themselves as an assertion of their masculinity.)

So 'gender orientation' refers to whether you feel predominantly a male (masculine) or female (feminine) or both (meterosexual) from inside, irrespective of whether you are a man, woman or a hermaphrodite.

This is different from 'sexual orientation', which refers to the (claimed) sexual interests of people, supposedly (but not in practise) unrelated to their gender orientation.

Only for you westerns does hetero mean male-female!

We have male-female marriages more than we have male-female relationships. And people don't see their sexual interests as a matter of identity.

Just like you may be a 'rice' eater or a 'wheat' eater, but you don't see that as a matter of identity. For most like to eat different things at different times.

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You don't need male-female relationships to procreate. You just need male-female sex, and preferably into marriage.

You said it! But the western culture is ruining ours by invading our media space --- in a one way globalisation process (from west to east, no actual interaction, just invasion).