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Incorrect. Look to Posting. RED area hot, that is where heat is taken in and given to the cold gas making it hot. GREEN area cold that is where hot gas is cooled before returning to the RED hot area. The same hot cold pricnipal is used in Steam turbines, however different means of heating and cooling take place where Steam is used as the driving force.

 

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there is no such thing as perpetual motion.
perpetual motion as in a device generating the energy it needs to run.
the ONLY WAY you will convince people otherwise is to construct the machine and let these people have full access to it.

 

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Tell an Atom to stop spinning. "there is no such thing as perpetual motion."

Agree. Wonder who will be first. "perpetual motion as in a device generating the energy it needs to run.
the ONLY WAY you will convince people otherwise is to construct the machine and let these people have full access to it"

 

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interesting analogy but do you understand the concepts of "strong" and "weak" nuclear forces?
what is it that keeps like charged protons tightly bound in the nucleus?
do you also understand reality and descriptions of that reality are 2 separate things?

 

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Entropy. a function of thermodynamic variables, as temperature, pressure, or composition, that is a measure of the energy that is not available for work during a thermodynamic process. A closed system evolves toward a state of maximum entropy.

 

You still quibble and bicker. What is making your device HOT and what is making it COOL? That's the only question you need to to answer to clear yourself of the claim that you have an over-unity device.

Again: there have to be TWO energy sources provided. One is higher in energy than the other. The engine takes energy from the higher source, removes energy, converting it to work, and transfers the rest to the lower energy source. The amount of energy spent is equal to the amount converted to work plus the amount delivered to the low side.


Anything else violates the laws of nature and it therefore impossible.

You keep circling and circling around this issue without ever nailing your stake in the ground. Just be done with it. Either say you are king of the universe, or else admit that you were wrong (about over-unity).

 

No claim to overunity. The question arises though from the text books. CO2 cooling is done by expansion chamber, see original post. Heating can be by any means of choice, this is denoted by no specific means of heating included, see original post. Cant be king of the universe that position is claimed by yourself.

 

The minute you claim you can run an engine on ambient heat, without a second energy source, you have claimed overunity.

What question?

Wrong. All you have done is increase the volume. It contains the same amount of energy. You still confuse heat energy and temperature, which is not energy until you multiply by the number of molecules that have reached that temperature. Classic mistake.

That's not the point. The point is that there must be heat AT A HIGHER TEMP THAN AMBIENT, plus a cool well AT AMBIENT; -or- there must be heat AT AMBIENT and a REFRIGERATOR (or ice) - in other words, a "cold supply".

IOW your "machine" is no different from any other. It has to spend energy to do work. If you're planning to feed it the "heat" of ambient air, you would need to furnish it a cold plate, powered by a refrigeration system. In other words you have to spend energy to do work.

The only "ambient heat" engine is one that draws from TWO sources -- such as ambient air vs hot springs, or warm air or water vs the ice of a glacier. And so on. You can't power an engine from the head or cold, wich is manufactures

No, I'm the minion of the universe who admits that nature rules over us, and its laws cannot be repealed. You are the one claiming that you can repeal them.

 

Wrong!

 

CO2 cooling cannot be done by an expansion chamber. An expansion chamber allows a liquid or gas to expand. This process generally ABSORBS heat from the environment as the ideal gas law requires that the resulting gas cool down. You need a cold sink if you want to cool the resulting gas past its equilibrium state.

That's fine - as long as you have a heat sink that's cooler. Heat flow = potential energy that can be extracted.

 

Wrong. "CO2 cooling cannot be done by an expansion chamber"

 

i've seen stirling engines run by the heat of your hand, which is only a few degrees higher than ambient.
over unity is where you get more energy from a device or machine than is put into it.

 

i disagree.
if you have a "bottle" of liquid CO2 (the kind of bottle welders use) and open the valve the CO2 will vaporize or expand thereby absorbing heat.
if i am not mistaken the earliest refrigeration trucks used CO2 to keep its contents cold.

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i assume the stuff in the bottle (CO2) would be liquid because it is under pressure, it could however be just a highly compressed gas.
the bottles i worked with were about 5 feet tall and weighed in excess of 100 pounds.
they were a part of a fire suppression device.
they were housed in a small room, probably 4 feet square, about 8 or 9 bottles.
one of the safety valves blew on one of the bottles and released its contents.
the expanding gas made a noticeable difference in the room temperature and formed an ice ball on the bottle valve.

 

Your in the game! The problem of ice formation in turbines, and appearing as solid in reply graph CO2, defeated by American NASA -R744 -year 2002, same time DaS Energy published gas forces to hydro turbine energy conversion. R744 now web site. Energy conversion is by California University, 9 bar water pressure flowing one litre per second, 720 watts. Pick any heat differential encompassing a 9 bar pressure differential.

CO2 an odd gas, ice to gas, gas to liquid, liquid to ice and gas and forevermore be so. Dependant if heat differential occur below 31*C then liquid formate. Above that heat, a gas with all the propperties of a liquid. Check out what a CO2 fire extinguisher does!

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all this hoopla over an expanding gases ability to absorb heat?
i don't mean to be disparaging but what's the point?
it takes energy to do work and unless you have found a way to overcome friction then your machine, or any other machine will never be "over unity".

 

Water dont rub much. Engines can rub lots and still be overunity, its power in power out that matters. Aint me found overunity its text book. As is all. Its a given to copy.

 

exactly, and i have never seen a machine that delivers more power than what has been applied to it.
you are aparently overlooking something if you think you have discovered over unity in a refrigeration cycle.
most textbooks will describe such cycles assuming perfect conditions for ease of explanations.
there are numerous places where heat or cold is "lost", conduction of the pipe walls for example.

 

Outcome remains the same outcome whatever the same outcome. Its that figure that matters.

 

Correct! It will absorb heat; heat will move from the environment into the gas. The environment is being cooled; the gas is being warmed. Thus my statement "CO2 cooling cannot be done by an expansion chamber."