# Hillary over Trump.???

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cluelusshusbund, Mar 20, 2017.

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## Knowin what you know now... woud you rather that Hillary had won.???

1. ### karenmanskerHSIRIBanned

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I refer you to Randwolf Post #5. I guess you might say that I am slightly less politically correct (PC) that most, Dave . . . I also believe that profiling is often a useful survival tool . . . yes, I do profile rattle snakes when hiking and refrain from trying to kiss them . . . . this has worked well for me so far! PC is OK as long as one is not fanatically-stupid about it! BTW: I think we're getting a bit off-topic here. Bye! ps/Randwolf, HAHAHA!

3. ### OysteinRegistered Senior Member

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This last election gave us two bad choices. Well, one bad (Clinton) and one really, really bad. I opted for just bad. So I voted while holding my nose. But in a way, I'm kind of glad that Clinton lost because, had she won, she would be spending all her time defending herself from the Repubs, sort of like Trump is having to do now from the Dems. I just wish Hillary would, along with her husband, just go away and retire. Now, she's starting to get politically active again -- which I think is a bad move for the Democratic party. I have hope that Trump will make such a fool of himself (or get impeached) and some new Dem will rise up and take the Presidency back in 2020. I can always hope.

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Cluelesshusband: I understand. I grew up on a farm in MO, bucked many a hay bale, had no electricity or running water, and helped my mother pick wild greens to supplement our food supply - which was mainly greens, fried potatoes, home-made cottage cheese, and navy beans. Our 'gender-neutral' out-house (a two-holer with a Montgomery Wards catalogue for TP) served the entire tribe (and visitors) well. And, we were SO POOR, that when we rarely went to town, I always looked for pennys in the street gutter . . . and when I found one . . . . it only had one side!! Yet, overcoming all such youthful distractions, I obstinately went on to eventually earn my Ph.D. . . . . and now I 'are' a scientist! HAHAHA (for Randwolf).

7. ### RandwolfIgnorance killed the catValued Senior Member

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Yummm! Some of my favorites, especially with a little ox-tail thrown in. Did you also walk ten miles to school, uphill in both directions?

On a more serious note, if you are inclined to share - what field is your doctoral degree in?

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hmmm

9. ### karenmanskerHSIRIBanned

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IMO, qualified Dems and Reps ARE out there, but one would have to have a lot of 'guts' to step into the fray. Both parties are laying in wait for such eviserating opportunities! Not to worry tho' . . . there are a lot of martyrs waiting in the wings!! . . .we've had such in the past (Lincoln, Kennedy, etc.) and even they were sacrificed.

10. ### cluelusshusbund+ Public Dilemma +Valued Senior Member

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We had a 1 hole outhouse which was fine escept for the dam black widows an wasps

... we had water an electric... an i sware i still miss the smell of our coal stove in the winter... an we didnt have a car but we had good food an clothes... but i hated school work an wanted a car so quitin school an doin farm work was my solution... an as i was savin up for a car my parents got a family car so my money went toward insurance an other car necessities.!!!
Not to long after that i moved to a diferent area an got a job makin 3.75 per hour an got a car all my own... a 1965 volkswagon... an it continued on... that good "luck" seemed to foller me around each step of my life.!!!

Concluson:::
People who start out wit a outhouse has a chance of becomin successful people like us

PS:::
Did you get my frind request.???

11. ### karenmanskerHSIRIBanned

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Only walked 8 miles (one way!) . . . . no, on the sharing . . . . gives the assholes here too much personal ammo!

12. ### karenmanskerHSIRIBanned

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WOW . . . $3.75/hr . . . Dittos on the black widows and wasps (especially red ones!). I started out at$1.00/hr. Wood stoves (LR and kitchen). Milked cows and churned butter by hand. Clothes home made or hand-me-downs. Learned about women's lingerie from the Wards catalogue (HAHA!). Don't do friend requests much anymore, not many out there (HAHA!).

13. ### cluelusshusbund+ Public Dilemma +Valued Senior Member

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Well so far in this poll more people are glad that Hillary didnt win... but all is not necessarily lost cause mayb Kitta hasnt voted yet... an if he changed his mind Hillary might still have a chance to win this poll... or... he might stick wit his views an still druther that Trump won insted of Hillary.???

On the first job that i got actual paychecks i made less than 1 dollar per hour pickin cucumbers... an at the time a co-worker who was in his early 60s picked about 25% more than i did... an as a young healthy kid i just coudnt figer out how this old man was pickin more than me... an whats funy to me now is... im now older than that old man was

An yes... some people dont wish to partake in frind requests... but sinse we are so much alike i now consider you to be my newest best frind on the open forum

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14. ### Stoniphiobscurely fossiliferousValued Senior Member

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: polite applause:

$1/hour at the carnival cleaning up, then$1.25/hr doing landscape grunt work, then $1.65/hr at Aunt Jane's pickles ($0.15/hr shift premium as it was night shift). Big break was Longshoreman. \$13.75/hr, 13 & 1/2 hours a day 7 days a week as long as there was a ship in port.

Got a lot of my education in E LA street gangs. I majored in knife, minored in motorcycle.

Actually scraped through high school (almost didn't do it)....bought a car and built a 1946 80" ULA HD chopper with the money I earned doing those shit jobs.

Parents paid for the first 2 years of college as I hadn't got put in prison or killed, I paid for the other 23 years myself. Art, History, Mathematics, Psychology + 8 credits shy of 2 more 3 - tier science.

Clueless was the first really warm and friendly person I met when I landed here a few short years ago. I have considered him a friend since, still do.

"Now wouldn't it be a real drag if we were all the same?"

Personal comment: rank amateur trolling, an actual PhD would be much better at it.

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15. ### iceauraValued Senior Member

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There are no "qualified" Republicans out there. The Party has by deliberate effort filtered itself of them.

There are a couple of young Turk Republicans who could, if they repudiated their Party, establish a political identity as honest and reasonable advocates of functional governance, and become by experience qualified for high political office. But they have not yet successfully repudiated their Party.

No Republican of current national possibility I know of has publicly acknowledged the fundamental reality - that Donald Trump and his administration does in fact embody the Republican Party, it's central and operational nature, its electoral base and political agenda, and that

therefore

no politician intending to participate in governing the US well can remain a loyal Republican in good standing with their Party.

It seems more likely they will join the Borg, or Gorp, as it were, as the reality of their campaign financing and the nature of their voting base both come into focus. Odds are that like John McCain, they will be sad cases in their middle age. (Worse, actually, because a couple of them seem like very bright young men, who will be more aware of what has happened to them). But it hasn't happened yet. By the same token that they haven't repudiated their Party, they haven't embraced it in its central ugliness yet - so there's hope.

But hope only. No reality yet.

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16. ### sculptorValued Senior Member

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big·ot·ry
ˈbiɡətrē/
noun
1. intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

17. ### spidergoatValued Senior Member

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Posting definitions out of a dictionary is the lowest form of debate.

18. ### iceauraValued Senior Member

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One can see how the notion that criticism of behavior founded in reason is "intolerance" of person founded in bigotry, and therefore critics are bigots, would become a popular position among Trump voters overall, as it has become among creationists and climate denialists and neo-Confederate racists and health care opponents and Clinton/Obama haters generally.

Increasingly, would be my prediction. They have been behaving very badly for quite a while now, and this latest tantrum and vandalism of the Presidency is not going to look good in the morning - or next year.

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19. ### karenmanskerHSIRIBanned

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Love your posts! . . . . hilarious! . . . . HAHAHA!!

20. ### billvonValued Senior Member

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And indicates that the poster has run out of valid arguments.

21. ### sculptorValued Senior Member

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Lowest = foundation
A good foundation is usually a good place to start building a building, bridge, or argument.

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Addressing the tolerance issue becomes appropriate when it becomes obvious.

22. ### spidergoatValued Senior Member

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We aren't bigots for pointing out that bigots are bigots.

23. ### DaveC426913Valued Senior Member

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I was the first to invoke the word bigot - in post 20 - it was in reference to KSM's comments about Cluelesshusband, to wit:

Proofread your OP - spelling/grammar . . . . you're not a US citizen, correct?
(Yes im from Kentucky.!!!)
Uneducated more likely . . . . . That explains a LOT!!!

The next mention was by sculptor (a definition), but had no context.
Then iceaura stepped up to link it to Trump.