Discussion in 'General Science & Technology' started by arauca, Oct 10, 2012.
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Creating these "fictional laws" as you call them, is part of human nature. That is why every culture has laws, whether written or not. Even apes show a social order. They do not just have chaos and constant killing. Humans have emotions and one of those emotions is compassion. We don't have to believe in a God to have compassion. We are not even limited to showing compassion only for fellow human beings. How often do human beings show compassion for animals. Hell, I know people who show compassion for inanimate objects. You should see Neverfly when he is nursing his 63 chevy back to health. I get jealous sometimes he cares for that truck so much. But I guess I do the same for my 78 mg midget.
Compassion is part of human nature and no amount of atheism will remove it. Only sociopathy seems to eliminate it. And many sociopaths claim to believe in a God.
Yes, John Edward, Sylvia Brown etc don't care about the money.
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I knew that someone will bring those people, but I don't mean on them at all, I mean on the ordinary people, but none knows about them. And they don't care about money and fame. You will never hear about them.
That's their job. I'm sure they have bills just like you and me.
That's what statistics says, I really don't believe too much in statistics, generally speaking. However, when people lost their jobs and become homeless those concepts no longer work.
This is my point exactly, there are scientific rules you have to follow, if there are people who have unusual abilities, their abilities break those rules, they are stigmatized.
Then why bother believing these imaginary people of yours exist?
You say you knew someone would bring them up... all the palm readers and tarot readers and their ilk- all profiting from believers suckered into the hope they can give them something that they simply cannot.
You say you knew but you didn't bring it up yourself, did you? You say you knew, yet you bulled ahead anyway, fully aware that your argument didn't have a leg to stand on. Wow.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own."
Yes, math is notoriously unreliable.
Stigmatized huh. I dont think sylvia brown seems to mind the stigma. She pushes her delusion onto every tv show that will cater to her. She then deludes her fans right out of their money. OH right you think she is real I bet. Even better to prove my point. Assume she really is psychic. No one is studying her. She is out in the open and has made every effort to secure her fame and fortune based on her supposed gifts.Your claims that they don't want the money and want to avoid stimatization falls flat dude.
Yes, in this case it is, in vast majority of cases isn't (but not all). Playing with holes in statistics to prove who is right and who is wrong, is not very reliable method.
My opinions have nothing to do with, everything I spoke was objectively, honestly I don't care if there is something beyond this materialistic part of the universe, my answer is you cannot know, to tell for sure.
And like I said I don't mean on this people, read above.
Do you realize that by saying "in vast marjority of cases" you are using a perceived statistic? So you are using a statistic to prove that statistics are unreliable. Awesome. Just Awesome.
For not caring, you're doing a fine imitation of it.
No, because 'those people' that we know exist don't match your description.
You mean other people, that no one knows about that do match your description.
Time travel is impossible because it creates paradoxes. But a spirit world is different. It's like a coexisting universe that is so extremely subtle that it mostly goes unnoticed. A spirit world is the ultimate "gotcha", it's the ultimate cosmic joke. You have to be psychic and/or crazy to detect it. Yet people have experienced spirits for as long as there have been people. But don't sweat it. When your brain finally dies, and you still exist, then the joke is on you.
Time travel is not impossible. We have just not figured out how to travel in any direction but forward or any faster than time itself. So it appears as if we are stuck in the present.
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This is nothing more than unsubstantiated junk.
See, so there are details. Too bad it took so long for you to reveal them.
I would also have subsequent questions, as there are more details, but I rest my case for now.
To the best of my awareness, I have no desire to be "one with all." I find such a desire to be absurd, and not something to aspire for.
Why? It represents cooperation, acceptance, and love. Possibly promoted by a shared fate or desire for life itself to continue.
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