Have you ever noticed?...

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by electrafixtion, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sorry, didn't mean to insult you, it's a quote from the movie "Buckaroo Banzai, Across the 8th Dimension".

    Quantum mechanics doesn't change our understanding of the stark reality of space travel. I'm not saying it cannot change, only that the explanation for UFOs that states they are the artifacts of a previously unknown technologically advanced alien species is at present, the most unlikely explanation.
     
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  3. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    He fried his brains with drugs. Sad, but this is what happens when people just can't say no.
     
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  5. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Me too, that's no excuse.
     
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  7. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    If the evidence stood up to scrutiny, there would be no debate, so you lose.

    But just for laughs, please provide some of this alleged 'good' evidence.
     
  8. albertchong1999 The truth is out there Registered Senior Member

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    this thread is the fact and it try to tell other the truth is out there!! We are definitely not alone in this universe, there is alien and God out there...
     
  9. cully5 Registered Member

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    these forums should have a simple problem solving test to pass prior to being able to make posts.
     
  10. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    The present understanding of Quantum mechanics lends an understanding that the fabric of space/time is not as we had previously thought. Energy itself is not as we have always contended. Mass and it's properties are dependent on us and our ability to interpret our dimensional environment's base energy. Since we ourselves and our present environment are infinitesimal tiny by comparison to the unknown vastness of a multi dimensional reality. Space and linear distance may in fact be a perceived bi-product of the confines of our present dimensional boundaries.

    The point here is that all the previous thoughts on linear space travel according to OUR present limitations and what we do now understand with respect to quantum mechanics, is "old school"
     
  11. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    Friend, I am going to give you a fair chance to make some sense here. Please try again. I don't mind you calling me a coward for one reason or another frankly, that's because you have been confused about pretty much everything so far, what should that be any different?

    Now start from the top and really attempt to clearly convey your points. I will HONESTLY respond, but if I realize that your premise is completely flawed or false to begin with, I am going to do my best to make certain that is known.

    As far as either of us "knowing everything", no we don't. What's next?

    PS. Last time I checked I was in fact not made out of concrete. This being despite whatever super powers you are attempting to attribute to me.
     
  12. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Not necessarily true: that's just one interpretation.
     
  13. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    Oli, you know a heck of LOT more than I do about this stuff. I do know that much. Quantum Wave knows many times more as well. I am just blown away by how incredibly uncertain so many things have recently become because of others that do know these brave new sciences.

    The point here from my lay perspective is that we really cannot judge or equate the likelihood of space navigation & travel based on past understandings of linear travel.

    I am so fascinated by this whole thing Oli. You know as well as I do that this stuff is real. We just just have to leave it at that.

    My deepest and most real conviction is that 90% of what is observed around the world and is reported and investigated as being legitimate "UFOs" is made right here on, or in, earth.

    There has been extremely credible research done by defense research publication firms that have indicated levels of elite working technologies that are possessed by both governmental as well as private sources. These technologies are simply beyond the scope of anything we the public are commonly familiar with or use. I sincerely believe the we moved into the realm of what is engineered and working quantum mechanical and artificial intelligence devices 30+ years ago and that these devices are known to less than a perceivable percentage of the scientific community.

    The other 10% are either (a) The same source (alien, extra dimensional beings or a separate esoteric and exceedingly advanced human group/race) that have been working with us to develop our own technologically applicable quantum devices, or (b) completely alien technology that will never interact with us because of our insignificance to them.
     
  14. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    UFO nonsense

    Here we go again with the claims that UFOs are well documented. This is not true. Please show us something.

    UFOs remind me of crop circles. Even when the pranksters admit their deeds there were many people claiming they couldn't possibly have done it with simple materials. It had to be extradimensional vortices or harmonic energy fluctuations from Pluto or whatever nonsense was being spouted.

    A great example of the UFO baloney is the lights over Phoenix.
     
  15. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    Why do I get the feeling that you are a sock?

    Doth thou have eyes?

    Doth thou have ears?

    Doth thou have a brain?

    Then use 'em!
     
  16. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    I suggest that you use your eyes and read.

    Show me any evidence. Simple request. You claim overwhelming evidence so show me something or are your claims simply trash?

    I even tossed out an example for you to show the evidence just in case your brain blanked out.
     
  17. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Krel the bromdongle. I come from a remote galaxy to Earth to inspire humans to take out of focus pictures and stare at night at nondescript lights. I also came all this distance to perform medical experiments on trailer trash, necropsies on cattle, and leave burn marks in fields.

    To bring humans to the next level of couch potato-ness we have slipped important technology into society. We have given you the pink flamingo, the blue screen of death, Dancing with the Stars, and pet rocks as examples of our superior extraterrestrial intelligence.

    May you always be a color of the 42nd harmonic. Grok and fold dimensions. taHqeq, yadda yadda.

    PS Here is a photo of me.
    weeklyworldnews.com/mutants/1754/aliens-attempted-to-abduct-a-bigfoot
     
  18. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    One would assume that space navigators would be able to detect when they are being observed. It makes no sense that they would chose to be observed in the least reliable circumstances, but otherwise to remain undetected.
     
  19. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Word salad. Go read a science book.
     
  20. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    No. Just the truth, which incidentally, does tend to taste good to the eye.

    Which science book do you recommend Phlog? Make sure it's one that you can guarantee me that will never be revised or proved wrong.
     
  21. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps they don't care. Much the same way we might feel walking past an insect on a tree branch that we pass while riding a bycicle down a path through a woods.

    It would seem that if they possess a complete mastery of what we can only now barely manage a glimpse of on paper with respect to quantum mechanics, that they would literally know what we are going to do before we perceive it as happening or having happened.

    It's quite possible that they also have no real desire to interact or place a value on us as a species.

    If we uniquely (in mass as a species being) perceive our reality in order for said unique reality to exist, are UFOs any different than any other aspect of that reality? Possibly all reality is NOTHING like we perceive it and UFOs (and whatever they represent) are as common place as diamonds. Perhaps it us they question the existence of and as a result they are merely at a technical advantage because of their present stage of development.

    The only place we are really at with respect to real science and it's quantum evolution is a fork in the road called "?"
     
  22. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    Why would anyone ever want to have a book that can't be revised.

    That's more ridiculous than the belief that aliens exist.

    Still waiting for some evidence.
     
  23. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I'd recommend you start with this one;

    http://www.dummies.com/store/product/Physics-For-Dummies.productCd-0764554336.html

    Why can't it be revised? Science makes new discoveries, that's what it does, so why are you saying a Science book shouldn't be updated with more recent discoveries?

    Let's get a few things straight. We had Newtonian Mechanics, and then later we discover relativity, and quantum mechanics. That doesn't invalidate Newton, but merely puts bounds on the use of Newton's equations. We update Science books with these discoveries, but it doesn't mean we were wrong, just that we did not understand everything. We knew that anyway.

    Maybe you are labouring under the false assumption that something has to be perfect and absolute to be correct, well, you'll never get anything done that way. Science understand limits of measurement, error, and calculates these imperfections.
     

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