Have we lost our Country?

So we see the standards of proof of causality that this political faction accepts. YouTube videos of edited anecdote.

For a statistically valid demonstration of correlation between low educational standards and votes for McCain, the ordinary electoral map suffices.

I think that is the point - one reason authoritarian rightwingers limit and ration education in general, and mock booklearning at every opportunity.

 

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Your the one who doesn't understand example, yopu post something and then want to claim it support your contention, well from the Press Release, all this shows is educational achievement level in each state at the elementary and secondary education, the rankings of their schools:

http://www.statestats.com/edpress06.htm

Ranking........State..........Smart Ranking.........2006 Ranking.........CHANGE
08..........Wisconsin.............9.04.......................8.......................0
41...........Georgia..............-6.92.......................40....................-1

Yes, pjdude, your from the bottom 20% of the state education level, and your state's education level is sinking, in smartness ratings your state is in negative numbers, and you still don't know what a example in support of statement is.

Your example show nothing but the educational rating of each state in academic achievement, there is no comparison or reference to Democrat or Republican, and their education level or achievement.

If you are a prime example of Democratic educational achievement, the country is in even more trouble than I though.

 

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This is what passes for education in a Democrat?

Dam we are in trouble,

You have citation to back this up?

It is the Democrats who mock book learning, they are the one's who want to use proficiency tests as proof of education, they are the ones who developed the proficiency test, and our public schools are still failing at a level that should cause panic in the society.

The Democrats are the one who want to recognize Ebonics as a legitimate language.

Teddy Kennedy got everything he wanted in His education Bill from President Bush, And guess what? the achievement scores went down.

 

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I asked for quantitative data, not someone video. Give me exit poll data that shows obama supporters are dumber than McCain supporters.

 

http://www.zogby.com/news/wf-dfs.pdf

 

interesting you chose Wisconsin but I am glad you did. Georgia which is a a rightwing state is low. through out my entire time in Georgia not once did a class get through the entire curriculum talking to my cousins who live in Wisconsin, a left wing state is high, they do get through their curriculum and I know for a fact it is harder.

 

Again you fail, your vaunted citation has nothing to do with your musings, it is empirical evidence of the Educational Standings of Various States with no category for Party Affiliation.

You are trying to make a anecdotical conection, from empirical evidence, and with a spurious connection to the evidence presented at that.

You are the one who show the lack of education, self taught or formal, you continue to fail to provide anything resembling empirical evidence to support your musings as anything resembling coherent fact.

Yes, your vaunted self education...:roflmao: you need to fire the teacher and hire a better educated one.

Yes the Dance King, chirping the tune.

The reason that I chose Wisconsin is that Wisconsin has a major split in it's voting demographic, the Liberal Cities, Milwaukee, Madison, La Crosse, which have enough votes to cancel out the conservative small cities, in the country.

It also has a split in the Educational success levels, Milwaukee, Madison, La Crosse, Eau Clare, have the lowest levels of educational achievement in the State,

The liberal areas of Wisconsin show a decided lack of education levels and achievement, and those areas are Milwaukee, Racine, Waukeeshaw, Madison, La Crosse, the Heart and Soul of the Democratic Party in Wisconsin.

In fact as shown by my citation, it is the heart and soul of the Democratic party which has the least achievement in educational levels, though they vote consistently and determinedly Democratic.

 

way to go buffalo you seem to be arguing causation which is stupid. Their is also another factor in education success in those areas that you seem to be ignoring wealth/income. They are also some of the poorer areas in the state. I am arguing a correlation.


by the way wisconsin is very left wing. why do you think they have had socialist govenors?

 

Please point out in there the relevant information.

 

Waukesha is "liberal"? La Crosse is "liberal" and uneducated? Madison is burdened with a "decided lack of education levels" among its residents ?

Somebody's not too familiar with Wisconsin - - -

Refreshing to see a change of tune from the nuttery - the rant about the "elites" voting for the "socialist" Obama was getting old. Now you need to update your examples - those are from the "socialist elite" rant, and they don't work for the "uneducated ignorant" rant.

 

ice, I live here, and these cities public schools, are at the absolute bottom of the Educational Ladder here in the state.

Nothing has changed except that we are spending even more money for less return.

Governor Doyle, has made a lot of promise's and has not delivered,

The only schools that are doing their jobs in these cities are the Parochial Schools and the Charter Schools, the public schools are failing at rates that are comparable to California.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/32614349.html

Empty promise
Milwaukee Public Schools spent $102 million on a building spree meant to reduce busing by convincing parents to enroll students in bigger, better neighborhood schools. Today, many of those new classrooms go unused.
By DAVE UMHOEFER and ALAN J. BORSUK

Posted: Aug. 17, 2008

http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/10881041.html

Seventeen Milwaukee High Schools Make "Dropout" List
Story Created: Oct 30, 2007

Story Updated: Oct 30, 2007

 

So stop Dancing and prove correlation, what you are presenting is anecdotal, and claiming causation, you have provided no empirical evidence, of your puerile musings.

You are claiming that better education is causation of voting liberal, and then claim that the blue states have better education systems than the Red States.

Milwaukee, Madison, Eau Clare, La Crosse, are some of the poorer aerias of the State?

Yes, pjdude, anything you say.

Now stop Dancing and prove correlation, and empirical evidence of your anecdotal claim.

 

Regardless of what the Milwaukee public schools are like, to claim that the vote for Obama from the Madison area was a consequence of the "decided lack of education" in Madison residents is goofy. Similarly with the rest of your list.

And besides, being at the bottom of the ladder in Wisconsin is not so bad, necessarily, compared with the McCain voting states.

Aren't the Charter schools part your public school system?

 

Come back when you understand the difference between correlation and causation. No where have I said that being better educated causes liberal voting. I have said that being liberal and being well educated tend to overlap. I have proven correlation. Just because your to damn lazy to put to put 2 and 2 together doesn't mean I haven't provided proof.

 

a statement of correlation

you still doing your same old shit i see. You can't understand the point nor refute it so you insult.

Why so I could hire you and lose my intellect? Still can't deal with the fact your no where near as intelligent as I am.

 

Perhaps, but then dud rarely has a point.

 

The uneducated voted for Obama. So did the educated - Obama took 58% of the vote among people with postgraduate degrees, and beat or tied McCain in every educational level category:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/obama-outperforms-kerry-among-virtually.html

Demographically, the better educated people voted for Obama. Regionally, the better educated areas voted for Obama.

If the uneducated also voted for Obama, why is that bad? Why does that make some people feel as though they are losing their country?

 

How could I regurgitate what the left wing blogs says if I don't read? For you sake your are correct, I don't read left wing blogs. Now where in this polling data does it show obama supports are stupid? Where is the comparison to mccain supports? When people write reports they don't say "well read X it has all the answer" they say "X shows that Z% more then Y.[1]"

1. X, an article of X, year of X, journal of X, web address of X, last access of X. etc

by doing the former one can claim data that does not exist by hiding this fact under mounds of irrelevant data and then take cheap shots when it can't be found claiming lack of detailed analysis on the others part.

 

you and buffalo are one and the same. Neither of you as anything resembling intelligence or independant thought you just churn out your little right wing talking points. your also like him in that you like to pull out baseless judgements of my personality out of your ass.

 

For all of your claimed self education you have never answered to the questions posed for citation, and evidence, you just dance, weave and bob, hell you aren't even funny anymore your just pathetic, you provide no citation or empirical evidence to support your puerile musings and when request to do so your bob and weave, dance and chirp, and never provide any evidence at all, you just run your mouth, and make mendacious claims of education and intelligence, along with paltering anecdotal observations, with no empirical evidence to back up your jejune observations.

You have provided no evidence to repute, and I doubt that ever can, you think your the smartest brain on the planet, but as I said,

Now I await your juvenile, pubescent, response, because you have no fact to back your anecdotal observations, that would meet the criteria of empirical evidence.