Gravity waves detected for the first time ever

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  1. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    When they called them quasars, they couldn't even tell a star from a galaxy, because their telescopes were so bad.
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The jest are theorised to be caused by a rotating charged BH, interacting with the accretion disk, to twist the matter approaching the EH, around via the magnetic field lines, and then up and away at the BH polar regions.
    Yes it probably could be a normal stellar BH with jets, but that's not the crux of the debate as I see it.
    With QUASARS of course, the SMBH is entirely valid.
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    What has that to do with the price of fish?
     
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  7. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    You should. It was the best one I ever read on the subject, and you might learn something. Then you can tell the book that it is wrong about everything, instead of me.
     
  8. Schneibster Registered Member

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    No, they're accretion disks with jets. Black holes don't have jets.
     
  9. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    Are you hallucinating?
     
  10. Schneibster Registered Member

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    You're confusing black holes with dark matter again.
     
  11. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    That's real mature.
     
  12. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    Great, so you don't know what dark matter is either? Surprise, surprise...
     
  13. Schneibster Registered Member

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    You apparently have confused the SMBHs at the centers of galaxies with the theory that dark matter could be black holes in the halo. The halo is outside the visible edges of galaxies, not at the center.
     
  14. Schneibster Registered Member

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    Yep. It's true, too. There are accretion disks without black holes. There are even accretion disks with jets without black holes.

    Black holes don't have jets.
     
  15. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    Dark matter is a theoretical unknown of an unaccounted for source of gravity. We didn't use to know for sure if black holes existed in the center of galaxies, so it made it a likely candidate for dark matter. If it was the only candidate, then the black hole in the center of the galaxy is the size of our solar system. If it is not the only source of dark matter, then it would be smaller.
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.space.com/18668-biggest-black-hole-discovery.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_massive_black_holes

    http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/black-holes/

    Considering our solar system is around 4 L/years across from one side to the other, and some SMBH's are thousands of times more massive then our own miserly 3 million solar mass SMBH, then Schneibs is probably correct.
    Although I havn't done the maths.

    http://www.universetoday.com/104486/how-big-is-our-solar-system/

    So maybe you need to eat that BS flag you fly in the name of others.

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  17. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    Mind blown. Wow. So trivial, and yet so amazing. Accretion disk without black holes. Now, that is a new one.
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Rubbish!

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  19. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    Still not even close to 60 light years.
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Again Schneibs is correct.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_disk

    An accretion disk is a structure (often a circumstellar disk) formed by diffused material in orbital motion around a massive central body. The central body is typically a star. Gravity causes material in the disk to spiral inward towards the central body. Gravitational and frictional forces compress and raise the temperature of the material causing the emission ofelectromagnetic radiation. The frequency range of that radiation depends on the central object's mass. Accretion disks of young stars and protostars radiate in the infrared; those aroundneutron stars and black holes in the X-ray part of the spectrum. The study of oscillation modes in accretion disks is referred to as diskoseismology.[1][2]
     
  22. Layman Totally Internally Reflected Valued Senior Member

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    Deal with it.
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Not at all. Although your confusion and twisting of facts, along with dancing around your errors without admitting them, is shameful.
     

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