# Gravity-unreductive

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by Smellsniffsniff, Jul 22, 2007.

1. ### SmellsniffsniffGravitomagnetism Heats the SunRegistered Senior Member

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No matter how many particles gravity affect, on no matter how high a density, to black hole density, it is unreduced. 1 particle can affect an uncountable amount of equal particles, in the radius of an atom with the force Gm*(uncountable amount*m)/r^2. To do that it needs a higher energy density in its gravity field then can be produced by converting its mass to energy. Gravity is hence an enormous outer force that should only be converted to energy under strict regulations, and since anyone could do it, society should be under very strict regulations, and if that cannot be accomplished then we stand no chance against our own foolishness.

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3. ### KlippymitchThinkerRegistered Senior Member

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There's no such thing as a particle of gravity.

5. ### SmellsniffsniffGravitomagnetism Heats the SunRegistered Senior Member

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we can make a radio, we can make a cylinder, we can make a lince.

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"Our foolishness?"

What's foolish here is what you've just posted (above).

Gravity, per se, cannot be "converted" into energy. It can produce useful energy when it's applied to a mass containing potential energy which is transformed into kinetic energy under the influence of gravity - such as falling water being used to drive a turbine.

The whole idea you are proposing is nothing but sheer nonsense. I suggest you either study a lot more or find something else to play with.

8. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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Notice that two masses are involved - m and (uncountable amount * m). The (uncountable amount * m) does a lot of the gravity generating.

This statement seems to have come from nowhere. Show me your calculations, please.

9. ### SmellsniffsniffGravitomagnetism Heats the SunRegistered Senior Member

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Yes, true enough the mass in itself affect every uncountable particlehoop with an extremely low forcefield, whilst the big mass attracts the small mass an uncountable amount more, but it only affects the one, so they effect eachother equally much. The truth of it though is that that is the way it is. The small mass affect all those particles with the same force that is unreduced by the number. Gravity is very strong, it is not time for us to tame it yet.

PS. If you want numbers just insert a black hole gravity field into the particle.

10. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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Smellsniffsniff:

Gravity (at least Newtonian gravity) is an interaction which obeys Newton's third law. Thus if mass 2000M interacts with a mass 1M to produce a force F, then that force F acts equally (but in opposite directions) on the 2000M mass and the 1M mass.

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That makes practically no sense at all. :bugeye: And of all the basic forces known to exist, gravity is by far the WEAKEST of them all!!

Exactly what is it that you think you're trying to prove here??? You certainly know almost nothing about even the most basic physical principles. Are you just "talking to hear you head rattle?" You're certainly going to get no where with this false line of reasoning.

12. ### SmellsniffsniffGravitomagnetism Heats the SunRegistered Senior Member

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Yes

See, that's where you ferted and all left the room.

13. ### SmellsniffsniffGravitomagnetism Heats the SunRegistered Senior Member

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Imagine that you took 1 particle from the black hole at the time until you have taken them all, how much energy would you need to use?