Gravity A Wave

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by Starman, Nov 28, 2004.

  1. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    This is a little known theory of a scientist who worked for the US Government on black projects Robert Lazar and I quoat.

    "there are two specific different types of Gravity: Gravity A and Gravity B. Gravity A works on a smaller, micro scale while Gravity B works on a larger, macro scale.

    We are familiar with Gravity B. It is the big gravity wave that holds the Earth, as well as the rest of the planets, in orbit around the Sun and holds the moon, as well as man-made satellites, in orbit around the Earth. We are not familiar with Gravity A. It is the small gravity wave which is the major contributory force that holds together the mass that makes up all protons and neutrons. Gravity A is what is currently being labeled as the Strong Nuclear Force in mainstream physics, and Gravity A is the wave that you need to access and amplify to enable you to cause space-time distortion for interstellar travel..

    To keep them straight, just remember that Gravity A works on an atomic scale, and Gravity B is the big gravity wave that works on a stellar or planetary level. However, don't mistake the size of these waves for their strength, because Gravity A is a much stronger force than Gravity B. You can momentarily break the Gravity B field of the Earth simply by jumping in the air, so this is not an intense gravitational field.

    Locating Gravity A is no problem because it is found in the nucleus of every atom of all matter here on Earth, and all matter everywhere else in our universe. However accessing Gravity A with the naturally occurring elements found on Earth is a big problem. Actually, I'm not aware of any way of accessing the Gravity A wave using any Earth element, whether naturally occurring or synthesized, and here's why.

    We've already learned that Gravity A is the major force that holds together the mass that makes up protons and neutrons. This means the Gravity A wave we are trying to access is virtually inaccessible as it is located within matter, or at least the matter we have here on Earth.

    The most important attribute of these heavier stable elements is that the Gravity A wave is so abundant that it actually extends past the perimeter of the atom. These heavier, stable elements literally have their own Gravity A field around them in addition to the Gravity B field that is native to all elements.

    No naturally occurring atoms on Earth have enough protons and neutrons for the cumulative Gravity A wave to extend past the perimeter of the atom so you can access it. Even though the distance the Gravity A wave extends is infinitesimal, it IS accessible and has amplitude, wavelength and frequency just like any other wave in the electromagnetic spectrum. Once you can access the Gravity A wave, you can amplify it just like we amplify any other electromagnetic wave.

    So, back to our power source. Inside the reactor, element 115 is bombarded with a proton which plugs into the nucleus of the 115 atom and becomes element 116 which immediately decays and releases or radiates small amounts of antimatter. The antimatter is released in a vacuum into a tuned tube which keeps it from reacting with the matter that surrounds it. It is then directed toward the gaseous matter target at the end of the tube. The matter and antimatter collide and annihilate, totally converting to energy. The heat from this reaction is converted into electrical energy in a near 100% efficient thermoelectric generator. This is a device that converts heat directly into electrical energy. Many of our satellites and space probes use thermoelectric generators, but their efficiency is very, very low.

    All of these actions and reactions inside of the reactor are orchestrated perfectly like a tiny little ballet, and in this manner the reactor provides an enormous amount of power.

    So, back to our original question: What is the power source that provides the power required for this type of travel? The power source is a reactor which uses element 115 as a fuel, and uses a total annihilation reaction to provide the heat which it converts to energy, making it a compact, lightweight, efficient, onboard power source.

    I've got a couple of quick comments on element 115 for those of you that are interested. By virtue of the way it's used in the reactor, it depletes very slowly, and only 223 grams of 115, which is just under 1/2 a pound, can be utilized for a period of twenty to thirty years.

    Element 115's melting point is 1740 C.

    I need to state here that even though I had hands-on experience with element 115, I didn't melt any of it down and I didn't use any of it for twenty to thirty years to see if it depleted."

    Let me know what you think?

    Also if the Gravity A wave, is the major contributary force of the Atom, then would it not be possible that the Gravity B wave, the gravity that holds us to the surface of the earth could be in fact a weaker propagation effect of the Gravity A wave? If a pool of water is disrupted by many solid objects creating many primary and secondary waves then would it not demenstrate that the stronger inital waves propagate into weaker secondary waves?
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  3. Yuriy Registered Senior Member

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  5. MacM Registered Senior Member


    Actually, I find this rather interesting. Considering that UniKEF predicts that very thing.

    ******************** Extract from UniKEF Gravity ***************
    [099] UniKEF suggests that the Strong Nuclear Force may in fact be an enhanced form of gravity caused by local affects due to increased flux interception orthogonal to the surface of relavistic spin velocities of sub-atomic components and the CoS geometrics of super-concentrated ultramicroscopic regions within quarks, etc.

    [100] This is a unique process where a mass displays two gravities. One being the macroscopic view of the atom which is held together by electromotive forces and the statistical cross-section the sub-atomic components present to the flux through that volume which is primarily void or empty space. The other being a specific local gravity at the surface of the relavistic velocity spinning components.

    [101] That is mass can posses greater internal gravity than its apparent inertial mass gravity would suggest.


    Do you have any links or names to attach to that study?

    The inclusion on the "Crank Dot.Net" site shows they are starting to fear what I might be able to show. :D Considering they know nothing about UniKEF their opinion is a worthless opinion. Just like Yuriy's. :p
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  7. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    Here is a link where I took the excerpt from
    However Robert Lazar offers a convincing video that I have a copy of and this link includes the diolog from the film.
  8. MacM Registered Senior Member

    Thanks Starman. I Googled the name and see a lot of contraversy, conspiracies and UFO stuff. I am not prepared to hook his flag to my ship. :D

    If his credentials pan out then he is either privy to a lot of what we would all like to know or he has popped a cork. I'm not prepared at this stage to make that judgement.
  9. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    Change is a universal constant however Science dosent welcome change nearly as well as it should. Sometimes we have to listen to our intuition and let our common sense "opps oxymoron common sense is not common" guide us in our explorations. We communicate by more than words alone our body language and facial expressions are enough to tell in most cases sincerety can be reconized by those who know what to look for. I know the Robert Lazar story and no he is not perfect however he is credible.
  10. MacM Registered Senior Member

    May I ask how you happen to have a copy of the video? Are you close to Mr Lazar in any manner?
  11. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    I have never met Robert Lazar however I have spoke to his Good Friend in Las Vegas Nevada Gene Huff. He is very protective of his friend Bob Lazar and for good reason. Gene Huff has a link at problems related to his employment at S4.
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2004
  12. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    MacM or any other Qualifyed person. Can you answer two questions for me?

    1. If Gravity is a Wave how can it be obtained?

    2. If one could obtain the wave length and frequency could we record it as we do for other media?

    3. If we could obtain the wave how would you build an amplifyer to project the wave?

    opps that was three sorry.
  13. Silas asimovbot Registered Senior Member

    Even detecting gravitational waves is right at the edge of current knowledge. Certainly nobody dreams of building a gravity wave amplifier.
  14. MacM Registered Senior Member

    Thanks but I would not include myself in the definition of "qualified" person. I do have knowledge and opinions however.

    #1 - It is my understanding that the term "wave" is more reserved to a pertabation of the gravity field than that of gravity itself.

    #2 - There are currently several experiments attempting to detect gravity waves.

    #3 - That is the goal and dream of many. Unfortunately to date they all seem to be shunned and ignored by Relativists. But then none have to my knowledge presented any evidence or tests of such devices that have been replicated or verified.

    But then again only a few seem to be actually following up such claims with efforts to duplicate such results.
  15. 2inquisitive The Devil is in the details Registered Senior Member

    I think the 'frame-dragging', or Lense-Thirring effect, that has reciently been proposed
    to have been detected is evidence of gravitational waves.
  16. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    We can put a man on the moon yet we are unable to detect a gravity wave.

    Is this mostly due a lack of intrest?

    Is the gravity wave part of the electromagnetic spectrum?
  17. MacM Registered Senior Member

    I believe you are correct but I think that is a pertabation of gravity and not gravity perse'.
  18. 2inquisitive The Devil is in the details Registered Senior Member

    Yes, the gravitational field is a more or less 'static' field and the pertabation moves through that field, like water waves through a body of water.
  19. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    MacM here is another refference to Robert Lazar let my know what you think also I have included the link


    For a spherical body immersed in a vortical motion the intrinsic centripetal force transferred via the sphere’s surface is a gravitational force.

    Einstein said that gravity was not a force but a property of space itself which includes the factor of time.

    According to Bruce Cathie and his "Mathematics of the World Grid" the earth’s atmosphere, or more correctly the earth’s gravitational domain, has a criss-cross matrix of magnetic lines of force composed of billions upon trillions of crossing lines that manifest as eddy-currents, or micro-vortices, which in turn manifest collectively as gravity (with a latitudinal flux of 1257 lines per sq. cm, and a longitudinal flux of 1850 lines per sq. cm) (see note 17).

    According to Bob Lazar, speaking about one of the propulsion systems used by the ufo he worked on, "the craft does not create an ‘antigravity field’, as some have surmised: It’s a gravitational field that’s out of phase with the current one - it’s the same gravitational wave. The phases vary from 180 degrees to a longitudinal propagation."

    So, while normal current waves and magnetic waves are ‘in phase’, resulting in a max current at max mag field situation, what Bob Lazar seems to be saying is that by altering the way an electromagnetic wave is propagated a vector force can be created - which acts against the gravity force that is operating through this planet. Or, say for instance, that 90º was the phase of gravity - if the phase were altered (to anywhere between 180º and 0º) then the centripetal force would be more, or less...(see Bob Lazar's explanation).

    If you created the same current/mag field/mag field combination but altered the phase, to say 100º, you would become heavier and at 80º you would be lighter...

    And control of the frequency (or phase of modulation) could then control the acceleration, lift and direction depending upon how deftly all the variables were controlled...

    And if such an out-of-phase gravity wave were produced then one extra reaction to it would be the generation of electric current where the two waves (the existing gravity wave and the new generated one) met and interacted...

    Please let me know what you think.
  20. MacM Registered Senior Member

    Thanks. I have put it in "Favorites" for a later read. I have to be honest. What little I have seen on the internet about Lazar, I am not impressed or swayed to believe in him. But I don't rush to judgements. I will read your link.
  21. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    MacM Here is somthing that should help.

    Can you give me your thoughts?
  22. MacM Registered Senior Member


    I have seen the Element 115 claim before. Note also that it is not the labs claim that it achieves any gravity breakthrough.

    I have also seen where rebuttal papers claim no 115 element was ever discovered or produced. I will do some exploring and see if I can link to those papers.
  23. Starman Starman Registered Senior Member

    Here is the data on UNUNPENTUM element 115 discovered in Feb 2004
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2004

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