God and Soul in Quantum Theory.

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  1. socratus Registered Member

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    God and Soul in Quantum Theory.
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    Can the conception of God and Soul have Physical Background?
    My answer is: "Yes, God and Soul have physical background
    and can be explained by physical formulas, equations and laws."
    I will try to prove my position.
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    Question: what is God?
    The Religious answer:
    God is something Absolute, Infinite, Eternal, Spiritual,
    the Highest form of Consciousness, Who created everything
    in the Universe.
    The Physical answer ( in my opinion) is more concrete:
    There is an Absolute, Infinite, Eternal Reference Frame and IT is
    Vacuum in the condition of Absolute Zero: T=0K,
    that take the functions of God and create everything in the Universe.
    Zero Vacuum T=0K is a "solo fabric" of creation everything in the Universe.
    Zero Vacuum T=0K is a Metaphysical / Spirit World.
    How can I prove my opinion?
    1. God does not create this Material World directly Himself.
    2. To create Material World and everything in It, God uses Spiritual Particles.
    3. The modern name of these Spiritual Particles is Quantum of Light.
    Quantum of Light is most phenomenal particle in the World.
    Quantum of Light is the structural essence of the Material World.
    The essence of all material objects is Quantum of Light.
    Through the behavior of Quantum of Light we can understand
    what an Absolute God has the Highest form of Consciousness.
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    a)
    In the Vacuum Quantum of Light has maximal speed : c=1
    (from our earthly- gravity point of view).
    No material particles can ever attain this velocity. It means that this
    constant characteristic brings quantum of light to the world which
    is different from Material World and this is Vacuum World of Spirits.
    b)
    Many kinds of so-called different particles (waves) are only different
    manifestation / modifications of Quantum of Light.
    How can I prove this opinion?
    It seems that different particles create different waves:
    EM-waves, Gamma-Radiation waves, Röntgen-Radiation waves,
    Light-Waves, Ultraviolet -waves, Super/Ultra-High-TV-waves,
    Short/Mid/Long wave- length Radio Emission waves . . . but . .
    . . . but the energy of each of them is written by formula: E=h*f.
    It means that the difference between all these particles / radiations
    depends only on frequencies and the background of these modifications
    is one and the same particle: Quantum of Light in different frequencies.
    c)
    Question:
    Why the simple quantum particle electron has six ( 6 ) formulas:
    +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
    E=h*f and e^2=ah*c,
    E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV and E= ∞ ?
    My answer:
    Because an electron and quantum of light / photon and antielectron
    are one and the same particle in different actions and conditions and
    " The Law of conservation and transformation of energy/ mass "
    unites them together.
    d)
    The Quantum of Light is not static / firm particle.
    Quantum of Light is an elastic particle and can change its geometrical form.
    e)
    Through so-called "vacuum fluctuation / transformation" Quantum of Light
    can materialize or dematerialize its body ( virtual particle can become real
    and vice versa) using its own inner impulse h or h*=h/2pi.
    (Newtonian physics explains movement as a result of outside influence,
    Quantum physics explains movement as a result of own inner power / impulse
    of particle and therefore Quantum physics is only a modern Aristotle's
    metaphysics)
    f)
    1. The potential state of Quantum of Light in the Zero Vacuum is: E=Mc^2.
    2. In the straight constant movement its speed is c=1 and its energy is: E=hc
    Quantum of Light behaves like a "particle".
    3. In the rotation around its axis Quantum of Light behaves like "wave"
    with energy: E=h*f. In the Zero Vacuum nobody has influence on
    behavior of Quantum of Light. Quantum of Light by himself decided
    in which state He wants to be, it means that Quantum of Light has some
    kind of consciousness. The consciousness of Quantum of Light can evolve.
    Quantum of Light takes part in creation atom, cell, flower, . . . etc . . . and
    in creation every living being. And Its evolution of consciousness is going
    step by step (from atom, cell, flower . . . to a living being )
    according to ancient
    Vedas conception: ‘ from vague wish up to a clear thought ’
    g)
    Now . . . . . if . . . .
    If Quantum of Light have some kind of consciousness which can evolve and
    the Absolute Zero T=0K gave the birth to this conscious Spiritual
    Particles . . . .
    then . . . . then it means that the T=0K by Itself has an Absolute the Highest
    form of Consciousness.
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    P.S.
    The tendency to understand "God" by physical laws, formulas,
    equations using the Quantum Theory never will be ended.
    a)
    Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God?
    https://www.bigquestionsonline.com/cont ... elieve-god
    b)
    Does Quantum Physics Prove God's
    Existence?http://physics.about.com/od/physicsmyths/f/QuantumGod.htm
    c)
    Does quantum theory prove God exists?
    http://www.asktheatheists.com/questions ... od-exists/
    #
    In 1954 Einstein wrote:
    " All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
    no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
    Nowadays every Tom, and Harry thinks he knows it,
    but he is mistaken.'‘
    #
    In 1987 Feynman wrote:
    ‘ It is important to realize that in physics today,
    we have no knowledge of what energy is.
    We do not have a picture that energy comes in little
    blobs of a definite amount. ‘
    ================ . . .
    My concussions:
    We don't accepted Absolute Reference Frame T=0K and therefore
    we don't know what Quantum of Light and Electron are and therefore
    every speculation is possible. I say:
    1) God is simple: T=0K
    2) Soul is simple: Quantum of Light
    ( c/d=pi, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1, h=E/t, h=kb,
    h=1, c=1. h*=h/2pi, c>1, E=h*f , e^2=ach* , e^i(pi)= -1)
    3) Everything else (material) is complex.
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    #
    " If we were looking for something that we could conceive
    of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground
    state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start."
    / Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208, by Danah Zohar. /
    #
    " The reasons of a modern science give, maybe, the opportunity
    to make the conclusion, that the religion became acceptable
    for sensible scientific mind, since 1927. "
    / Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington /
    ===============================
    The God's Code of Nature.
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    § 1. Vacuum: T= 0K, E= ∞ , p = 0, t =∞ .
    § 2. Particles: C/D= pi=3,14, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1.
    § 3. Photon: h=E/t, h=kb, h=1, c=1.
    § 4. Electron: h*=h/2pi, c>1, E=h*f , e^2=ach* .
    § 5. Gravity, Star formation: h*f = kTlogW : He II -- > He I -- > H -- > . . .
    § 6. Proton: (p).
    § 7. The evolution of interaction between Photon / Electron and Proton:
    a) electromagnetic,
    b) nuclear,
    c) biological.
    § 8. The Physical Laws:
    a) Law of Conservation and Transformation Energy/ Mass,
    b) Pauli Exclusion Law,
    c) Heisenberg Uncertainty Law.
    § 9. Brain: Dualism of Consciousness.
    § 10. Test and Practice: Parapsychology. Meditation.
    ==============.
    Best wishes.
    Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
    ====================
    P.S.
    The secret of God, Soul and Existence is hidden in
    " The theory of Vacuum and Quantum of Light ".
    #
    I want to know how God created this world
    I am not interested in this or that phenomenon,
    in the spectrum of this or that element
    I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details
    /Einstein /
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  3. river

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    Anything that has a physical manifestation has mathematics tuned to it , by its shear existence its self .

    Quantum particles , theory ; has always had god involved because intelligence , results from the cohesion of these particles into a greater whole . The Quantum particles is the dispersion of a beings intelligence .
     
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  5. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Lots of words sooo to sum up

    Speculation with no evidence or predictive ability

    As I requested in another thread please point to a place in your text which screams out (although at a pinch I would take a whisper)

    "This section here can ONLY be explained by a god involvement. NO other explanation fits the observations or is indeed possible. god did it is the only single conclusion possible"

    Go. Your time starts now

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  7. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like a pitch for a book

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  8. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Smart fellow Einstein

    Another way to express the concept is

    god sat around for some indeterminate period - what was the impetus to create the Universe? and forget about creating matter where did the KNOWLEDGE come from? always present in gods brain?

    Coffee time

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  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    God and the soul really are everywhere, aren't they? I'm waiting for a topic on God and the Soul in Peanut Brittle.
     
  10. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Close

    My new book is called How to find god in Peanut Paste

    The crunchy type, not the smooth. That would be weird

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  11. el es Registered Senior Member

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    At least this is in pseudoscience.

    What are light quanta?

    Every Tom, Dick, Harry, and socratus think they know.
     
  12. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    A professor of mine used to tell this story:

    A grad student was supposed to give an oral presentation and his assigned topic was, "What is an electron?" He did his research, prepared his speech and rehearsed it diligently.

    On the fateful morning, as he showered, shaved, dressed and ate breakfast, he said to himself, "An electron is a concept that has concerned scientists for more than a century...." On the bus to the university, he said to himself, "An electron is a concept that has concerned scientists for more than a century...." As he waited for the audience to assemble, he said to himself, "An electron is a concept that has concerned scientists for more than a century...."

    Finally, he was introduced and he got up before the group of students and professors, including some eminent scientists, and he said, "An electron is a concept...."

    And he froze. He couldn't remember another word.

    He didn't know what to do. Then, to his amazement, the whole room got to its feet and applauded.

    (See also the limerick thread in Art and Culture.)
     
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  13. el es Registered Senior Member

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  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This.



    (If I too were to dispense with the need for evidence or predictive ability - as the OP has - then I would submit my theory of the Cosmic Unicorn: Creation of the universe by a wave of its tail.)
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I would love to see a short video of some of the thread starters on this forum. I wouldn't care what they were talking about in the video. Somehow I think such a video would answer a lot of questions.
     
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  17. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    And here I am thinking Woo Woo could not get stranger

    I'm starting to doubt truth is stranger than fiction

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  18. river

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    Hmmm.....

    It is all the same , this god-soul and quantum theory .

    Material things from the sub-atomic to the macro have the potential of life
     
  19. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    This forum is proof that fiction is definitely stranger than truth...much stranger. It's also proof that some strangers are stranger than others.

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  20. river

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    Meaning ?
     
  21. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Meaning this is a strange forum.
     
  22. river

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    Not really

    Life to my mind is in all things , from the sub-atomic to the macro .
     
  23. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    My comment was in response to Michael's post by the way and not a reference to your post.

    The first post in this thread is weird however, as are many on sciforums.


    "The Physical answer ( in my opinion) is more concrete:
    There is an Absolute, Infinite, Eternal Reference Frame and IT is
    Vacuum in the condition of Absolute Zero: T=0K,
    that take the functions of God and create everything in the Universe.
    Zero Vacuum T=0K is a "solo fabric" of creation everything in the Universe.
    Zero Vacuum T=0K is a Metaphysical / Spirit World."

    Regarding life being all things, of course.

    "God and soul" isn't made any clearer by bring quantum physics into the conversation however.
     
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