God and atheists

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by yaracuy, Mar 29, 2011.

  1. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    You asked the original question.
    And then you gave a perfectly valid reason for not asking it. (Post 29)
    And THEN repeated the question in a later post.
     
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  3. yaracuy Banned Banned

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    Good by Berne.

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  5. Plant Life Registered Member

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    "God" is a force that puts life on planets throughout the universe, no belief required.

    Oops. Someone else attempting to redefine "god".
    If god is a force how do we measure it?
    What units are used? Angels (standard SI abbreviation An)?
    What's that in mks?

    It is just ordinary matter and energy distributing itself through out the universe, ordinary units of mass and energy apply.
     
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  7. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    In other words you are redefining "god".

    Please show that there is a "force" that puts life on planets throughout the universe. Or even just on Earth to keep it simple.
     
  8. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    can you come up with a logical argument for this answer?
     
  9. yaracuy Banned Banned

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    What do you consider what we have on the earth? We have life which is unique. It is a manifestation of Intelligence , matter without intelligent force will be just a rock which will be weathered by the air
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Unique?
    Possibly. Depending on what exactly you mean by unique.

    Supposition.

    And doesn't address the question anyway, other than to use a circular argument.
     
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  12. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Was that actually meant to be addressed to me?
     
  13. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    I don't believe in atheist so I guess I am one of those A- Team players you talk of Sidey. You see I learned something that puts humility in Me . Want to know ? I will tell you anyway. Human Intelligence is " shuuush--- Don't want to let the cat out---- not the center of the universe
     
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  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Hello, I'm one. You can start believing now.

    How do you know?
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Not yet maybe.

    I believe I did in another thread. Humans can never be perfect thanks to evolution. Variation in our gene pool is our strength, and it means that a certain percentage of people will not be ideally suited to the present environment, always. Add to that the pace of our technological advancement due to intelligence, and it creates a constantly changing environment.
     
  17. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    it doesn't seem to me like anyone is ideally suited to the present environment which makes me question your premise. wouldn't it be better if instead of no one being ideally suited, everyone was ideally suited? if everyone was ideally suited to a perfect environment, then wouldn't that make us perfect humans?
     
  18. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Everything changes... Change is the only constant.

    Under your scenario, when the environment changes and we are no longer ideally suited, we all die.
     
  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sure there are some people who seem to have a charmed life, who fit their time and place more or less perfectly.

    If everyone was ideally suited, then when things change, and change is inevitable, we would all die. I do think that in a relatively stable environment, most animals would be well adapted, but these are not the conditions in which humans find themselves, probably and paradoxically due to our success.
     
  20. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    is it success then?
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Good question.
     
  22. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    what kind of change?

    also this idea of perfection, or being ideally suited, doesn't have to imply that everyone is exactly the same.
     
  23. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    I believe the current buzzword is "Climate Change".
     

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